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MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON JANUARY 9th 1995
Members present 10 members names recorded in new attendance book.
Correspondence
Letter ref. retired driver A. Hodgson assistance. After reading of letter branch proposed. “That a list for an appeal to be posted
in a messroom” Proposed M. Allen & seconded D. Griffiths. Voted unam.
L.D.C. Report
Amended rosters to start on 15.1.95, ref. loss of boat train.
Messroom redecoration – additional time being allowed to walk between P.N. point.
Route learning norms – remain as at the present.
Staff Reps – possibility of attending team briefs with management.
Outstanding annual leave must be used as soon as possible.
Proposal for notice board to made available for change-overs etc by T.C.S. office.
Cab cleaning matter to be raised with management at next agenda meeting.
H&S Report
On completion of redecoration of Brighton messroom, no smoking policy to be monitored possible discipline if staff igniore
warnings, new D.I. Cards issue anytime now, wearing of H.V. vest importance of the wearing and of discipline.
D.F.C. Report
Issue addressed by M.A. Allen
New depot at Barnham – date May 1995,Ref. Preston Park incident, increase in cabs, bags possible. Running of trains on
South Central, Part time workers a possibility, Selling of South Central T.O.U., November 1995, Privatision cost (South
Central T.O.U.) £150,000 to £250,000.
C.T.C. want, 91% of drivers to be trained by March, 95% later. Overcrowding of trains 4% over limit acceptable by
management. 16x4 car units to be removed from service, Bournemouth service doing well, Possible Ruby – Brighton service
& Ashford – Brighton service with 2 car D.E.M.U.s
Cowden Inquiry, recommendations due around Easter. Unauthorised change-overs and riding in driving cabs, six Form 1s
pending.
Sickness levels =12.2 days average a year above national average.
May driver I.D. cards to be issued.
Train P.A. announcements guidelines to be drawn up, crews to be urged to make more.
D.R.I. Package Deals – no announcements due at the moment.
A.O.B.
Proposed S. Weller & seconded D. Griffiths. “That this A.S.L.E.F. Branch (Brighton) to affiliate to the Brighton Pavillion
C.L.P. The cost of such to be authorised from the Political Funds.” Voted unam.
“That this Branch nominates Bro. M. Thompson as delegate to the Pavillion C.L.P. Brighton.” Proposed S. Weller & seconded
A. Flowers.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON FEBRUARY 13th 1995
Members present 10 members names recorded in new attendance book.
Correspondence
D.F.C. letter explaining payment agreements and training for all Trainman/Driver.
New Branch Member
Proposed D. Swaffield & seconded M. Thompson. “That Bro D. Redding’s application be accepted and forwarded to
A.S.L.E.F.”
L.D.C. Report
P. Edwards gave a report on seven issues
Accommodation Brighton Messroom, Route Learning – new method being proposed i.e. trips not days, Safety & fire training,
Train crew performance, team briefings – observing management’s working of briefing meetings, outstanding leave, driving
cabs – cleaning improvements.
Health & Safety Report
H&S Rep reported nothing to this branch, will make report at next meeting.
*Noted no smoking policy will be enforced in Messroom area once all works completed.
A.O.B.
Issue on Sunday working and the position each member has on working/not working.
Resolution
“That this branch mandates the L.D.C. Secretary and the Branch Secretary to clarify the position of working rostered Sunday
duties as a matter of urgency with the Executive Committee and our legal representative Robin Thompson & partners.”
Proposed S. Weller & seconded M. Thompson. Voted unam.
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MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON MARCH 6th 1995
Members present 17 members names recorded in new attendance book.
Correspondence
Trustee Nomination, proposed S. Weller & seconded M. Allen. “That Bro. C. Newton be nominated as a candidate for the
position of trustee.” Voted unam.
Letter regarding working of rostered Sundays, an acknowledgement received awaiting the General Secretary’s reply.
L.D.C. Report
Bro. J. Osborne gave a report on the following items.
Brighton accommodation area – no smoking ruling to be enforced more by management, monitoring of reports submitted by
Reps, should improve time scale on putting things right, H.V. clothing – staff to wear H.V. vest etc at all times on or near
track, Bro. I Wilson reported state of Brighton station track, reply Rail Track were fully aware of the problem, and would
address the issue.
A.O.B.
Bro. I. Wilson raised matter of route for sidings – dummy/shunts, do you need routes most of the time.
*It’s the driver’s responsibility to ask for routes, and not to work over routes until refreshers taken.
Debate on subsidy from branch funds for new members to attend Society Week-end school, issue deferred to next branch for
secretary to address the finance situation.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON APRIL 10th 1995
Members present 14 members names recorded in new attendance book.
Correspondence
Three letters of acknowledgement received, letter regarding Sunday working, Secretary to write again requesting an answer to
members position.
Application for membership.
Two new entrants have submitted their applications for A.S.L.E.F. membership. Proposed P. White & seconded F. Langridge.
“That these applications are accepted and to forward to Head Office.” Voted unam.
Motion
Following motion deferred from previous meeting was put to members following a debate the motion was put to members.
Voting For 0, Against 14 & Abstain 0.
Following motion was put to members was put to members.
“That this branch will give due consideration to any member who has never attended a A.S.L.E.F. Society Week-end School,
being given a subsidy up to a sum of £25 per case.”
Proposed M. Allen & seconded S. Weller. Voting For 11, Against 0 & Abstain 3.
L.D.C Report
A brief report, Easter roster sheets now posted.
May (Summer) Timetable – an overall of two extra diagrams to depot, Thameslink additional trains – Brighton not
diagrammed any of the new work. Bedford working these under D.O.O. mode. Croydon to produce rosters and L.D.C to be
given a chance to agree them.
Health & Safety
Final Messroom decoration to be completed, proposal to give more safety to driver.
SPECIAL D.F.C. REPORT
Bro. M. Allen, items addressed
Current position over Bedford working trains D.O.O. mode from Gatwick to Brighton. Both our D.F.C. and the E.C. of
A.S.L.E.F. are demanding action on this. Proposal to withdraw all 319/Bedford work from Selhurst, separate Thameslink at
Brighton, one of a number of options being considered, P.T. & R, in particular Clause 15 depot splits/volunteers.
Ballast working South Central drivers covering parts of S.W.T. and South East as well as South Central lines.
Plant Bargaining
Rest Day/Sunday working – Consolidation Document
P.T.& R. June, articles of information.
DAVE PENNY COLLECTION
Dave Penny (Redhill) & Brian Hall c1995
School liasson drivers for Sussex & Surrey area.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON APRIL 1st 1995
Members present 14 members names recorded in new attendance book.
Correspondence
New membership applications
Proposed M. Allen & seconded I. Osborne. “That A. Penhallow be accepted as a member of our Society.”
Letter Ref D.O.O (P) Three Bridges to Brighton
Issue resolve around proposals to run D.O.O. (P), when has not been cleared. E.C. correspondence to the T.O.U./D.F.C.
putting our union position and possible action.
L.D.C. Report
Rep’s explained Bank Holiday Workings, proposed rosters (summer), proposed Thameslink set up, proposed pay deal –
A.S.L.E.F.
Health & safety report
Items reported, proposed to run 12 car 319 units to L.W.S. and no proper change end walk ways provided, latest H&S
walkabout carried out.
D.F.C. Report
Issues referred to,
Rosters
Planning and levels of input by L.D.C.s managements decision to produce them by computers, Route knowledge on what
duties to go into various links
Problems over Starter Links and a revised training programme.
Tony then went on to explain various points regarding how T.O.U.s would be expected to operate.
P.S.I. was £140 million down on present levels,
M.M.S. level from June expected levels of return,
T.O.U. £6 million profits
Freight £30 million
R.F.D. expected losses
Overall a 10% cut in subsidies levels
Reflected in a 30% drop in staffing levels
Reference to a test case of compensation over depot splits.
South Central T.O.U. on track to meet target
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON JUNE 6th 1995
Members present 24 members names recorded in new attendance book.
Correspondence.
The matter of R.M. Abel’s accident was raised and in view of the case of B.R.s legal requirements under the Health & Safety
act. The following motion was put.
“That this branch having heard and considered the case of Bro. R.M. Abel, and the accident t Brighton (L.W.S. Depot) and the
failure of B.R.B.. to ensure a safe working environment under the Health & Safety at work act request the E.C. and the
General Secretary to seek a prosecution against B.R. by the H&S Executive Inspectorate.Further more in the event the the
H.&S.E. fail to bring a prosecution, the E.C. will be instructs the Society’s legal advisors (Robin Thompson & Partners) to
take out a summons against B.R.” Proposed R. Lawrence & seconded W. Jones.
L.D.C. Report
Issue reported were, method of the computer rostering and the effect on current rosters.
Shunting arrangements for Inter-City trains, also unit shunting in L.W.S., a joint agreement between Cross Country and South
Central Fleet.
Preparation, disposal and coupling pf 319s in L.W.S. and Brighton station.
North end of L.W.S. and washer road, lack of proper walk ways and the shunting arrangements of 319 units when 8 and 12 car
formation.
Health & Safety Report.
Brighton messroom cleaning, new contract cleaning firm to be introduced. Clean water machine being investigated for
messroom.
A.O.B.
Bro. W. Jones raised the question of being rostered overtime both on the day to day alteration sheet and weekly roster.
Position explained.
Bro. T. Fielding raised the problem of members in number one link not being allowed the chance to apply or Driver instructor
posts. Matter to be looked into.
Special D.F.C. Report
As a result of the proposed Thameslink split at Brighton, Tony allen was invited to address the branch.
First item was in relation to the new Welfare Support Talk Direct. D.F.C. had been made aware of this service and gave
support and hoped that any member wishing to use it would do so knowing that its confidentiality.
Pay Claim 1995
This was now likely to the last national pay claim. T.O.U. would be approaching the D.F.C’s in future, this is why it’s
important that our Society is able to achieve a strong basis for D.F.C. Reps now and why member support the society’s policy
on pay.
D.O.O. Brighton/Three Bridges Area
Thameslink were to try and extend D.O.O. (P) operation to Brighton. This issue was taken up by the D.F.C. and at a meeting
with the General Secretary at Head Office. Our position was reaffirmed over the method of introduction.
Tony explained the various meetings etc on this matter, and that Mr.Graham Eccles had assured D.F.C. that no members
would be disciplined over trains not operating D.O.O. (P) Three Bridges – Brighton should Conductors/Trainmen not
available to work trains.
Proposed Thameslink Split Brighton
Tony explained the proposed changes at Brighton with Thameslink about to separate it’s operation from South Central. That at a meeting on 22nd May 1995, Thameslink stated it’s intention to established a depot at Brighton, and it’s withdrawal from
Selhurst depot.
Their proposals were to have a depot of 24 drivers at Brighton from the 34th September, a structure withdrawal from Selhurst
with the result of two depot operation.
Tony went on to explain the various effects this would have on both Selhurst and Brighton.
What would take place under the P.T. & R.. and if after the memorandum of Information of Intent who would (and how) be
drivers for Thameslink? How part-closures are taken place in relation to the P.T. & R.
The affects as to vacancy list and all line transfers.
Various questions on pensions were raised, also future of drivers under Thameslink. Tony agreed that at the moment details on
how and what terms staff would have to agree were few and that as and when more information becomes available, he would
be willing to address members.
Danny Lodge
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON JULY 11th 1995
Members present 17 members names recorded in new attendance book.
L.D.C. Report
Members were aware of the new works on sidings North End of L.W.S., drivers refusing to work 8 & 12 car 319 and other
units over the area as paid off.
Minor diagram alterations, these to be posted, and members to amend their own personal rosters. L.D.C. has called for an
agenda meeting with Train Crew Manager, several items to be discussed.
H&S Report
New works at L.W.S., H&S Rep. to agree new pathways etc only after all works completed and to required standards. State of
kitchen area Brighton Messroom . state of track within Brighton station. Window cleaning equipment on Brighton platforms,
all should have buckets and brushes both ends.
A.O.B.
Cowden Crash appeal Fund, to be closed, final count at the moment is £16,344. This will be shared by all three members.
D.F.C. TO MEET Executive Committee on Thursday 13th July over Three Bridges – Brighton D.O.O. (P).
EXTRA ORDINARY
As a result of our vice chairman and L.D.C. Rep resigning, two positions now become vacant.
Vice Chairman nominations for this positions to be called for at Special Meeting arranged for 18th July.
L.D.C. Nominations
Three Candidates were proposed.
C. Newton, proposed by M. Allen & seconded D. Pumphrey.
I. Osborne, proposed J. Edisbury & seconded I. Wilson.
M. Thompson, proposed A. Flowers & seconded S. Weller.
A meeting arranged for 18th July 1995, the proposed candidates will be selected, no other nominations.
SIMON WELLER COLLECTION
1995 Picket Line
Left - Right: Mark Thompson, Simon Weller & Andy Thaxter
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON JULY 18th 1995
Members present 33 members.
AGENDA
Chairman opened the meeting and explained the purpose for calling this meeting, the meeting was called as a result of a
vacancy caused by the resignation of our L.D.C. and Vice Chairman of our Branch, Bro. P. Edwards.
At the last meeting three candidates were proposed and it was proposed to defer the election of the L.D.C. candidate until this
meeting to allow other members the chance to vote. A proposal from the floor to allow all three candidates another chance to
speak on their nominations, after it was put to the members, the proposal was rejected. The Chairman then called for the
election of the official A.S.L.E. & F. candidate, all 33 members were asked to vote. The following was recorded. “That Bro. I.
Osborne received the highest number of votes and was declared as this branches official candidate.”
The Chairman then called for nominations for the position of Branch Vice Chairman, two nominations were proposed.
Bro. S. Fuller, proposed P. Horan & seconded I. Wilson.
Bro. S. Weller, proposed M. Thompson & seconded H. Hassan.
After a vote was taken the following result was declared by the Chairman. “That Bro. S. Fuller received the highest number of
votes, and was declared Vice Chairman of Brighton Branch.
SPECIAL A.O.B.
As this meeting was called on a day of the current dispute our E.C. Member for No.1 district addressed the meeting. Bill
explained that the strike was 100%, and that the members who had voted against this action still showed their support by
following the call to stop work. He pointed out the reasons why we were taking this action of withdrawing our labour and why
we were using a fortnightly cycle, he went on to tell of the B.R.B.s response to all of our points regarding what we have had to
give, yet they still maintain that they have nothing more to give in return.
On Wednesday 19th the L.U.L. ballot would also be known, he was sure it would be a yes vote and that the pressure would
start to be applied to try and break the dispute and that standing together we can beat these threats to force us back, we do
have support from many quarters, but our real strength was our membership. Many points were raised in a question and
answer period and our chairman thank our E.C. member for attending the meeting.
VIDEO TO BE ADDED
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON AUGUST 1st 1995
Suspension of Standing Orders.
E. C. members W. Mackenzie addressed the meeting on current pay dispute, and ballot. Our E.C. member addressed members
over adverse reports on the dispute. He explained who the B.R. offer was presented too, the meeting and the legal action vice
the LU.L. ballot. The issue of the ballot, and how the E.C. viewed the proposal. The campaign being waged by B.R. and the
T.O.C./F.O.C. to break the dispute. Members raised various points on the pay talks, after allowing members to put these
questions, the Chairman thanked Bill Mackenzie for addressing the meeting.
Our D.F.C. Rep. Tony Allen asked for chance to address the meeting, also on the dispute. Tony explained our need for unity
with one another and our union. Urged member to reject any variable package deals, maintain the solidarity throughout the
dispute. He raised the point on T.O.C.s being prepared to offer large financial gains at the expense of jobs, hours on/off,
increase variations poor conditions
Crompton Training (Class 33s) 1996 with Johnny Rutter (Waterloo Instructor (ex Norwood)
Left ~ Right: Stu Fuller, Barry Brett, Richard Poole (Redhill) & Ray Frost (Redhill)
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON OCTOBER 9th 1995
Members present C. Newton, R. Abell, S. Weller, F. Langridge, I. Osborne, D. Swaffield, S. Fuller, D. Griffiths,
S. Smith, W. Sims, W. Jones, T. Fielding, M. Thompson, M. Hunter & D. Shephard.
D.F.C. Report
Owing to our D.F.C. Rep Tony Allen suffering a heart attack, the report was postponed. Branch wished to record its concern
and hoped Tony would recover quicly and return fully fit.
A.A.D. Report
The Districts Delegate Bro. Simon Weller gave his report on the to day business.
The arrangements committee and the marrying up of items, of the concern that it was made up of delegates who had not
undertaken this roll before.
The E.C. Report and the debate on its contents. The issues on pensions, P.T.&R.A., pay on B.R.B., L.U.L., Tyne & Weir,
E.P.S., restructuring of grades, election of the Spociety Trustee, financial report of the Society, restricting of A.S.L.E.F. society
and its membership and an address by Labour’s John Prescott.
The report was detailed, Bro S. Weller spoke heartily about how a lot of items never reached the floor, as some delegates
wasted valuable time the result was that our E.C. had no policy to progress.
He apologised for the delay in making his report to the branch, but he was due to have done so at the cancelled September
meeting.
Chairman thanked Bro. Weller for his report.
L.D.C. Report
Bro. I. Osborne made a report on the winter roster and that some rest days had been altered because of an imbalance in
covering Saturday diagrams. 1996 holiday rotation roster was now at Croydon awaiting agreement and return. A proposed
Christmas service and management would be asking for volunteers.
H&S Report
Bro. M. Hawkins made a report, walkways North End of L.W.S. still not fully cleared, members are still required to seek
assistance when shunting with 8 or 12 car 319 stock.
Concern over enquiries being carried out by Railtrack on safety issues South Central and other T.O.U. are not being involved
and advised of any outcomes. Members must be aware and alert in all aspects of their work if called upon to make reports get
copies and inform your local reps.
A.O.B.
On Health & Safety, concern over the state and smells in locker room ‘C’ at Brighton depot. Bro. Hawkins would look into
this matter and report back.
Trainman ‘D’ rostering arrangements and relief drivers being booked on turns out of shift, can an agreement be sort whereby
work is rostered on a shift basis using senior most man on each shift etc., and not taking of one shift and on to another and
then back again. L.D.C. would approach management to get an agreement if possible.
Bro. S. Smith raised the question regarding special D.O.O. payments for conducting on private water cannon train by some
depots. L.D.C. said that on such agreement was a purely local one with these depots.
Items for 1996 A.A.D. were put before the branch with view
to them being put to the General Secretary for next year’s
agenda. Proposed & S. Weller & seconded D. Swaffield.
That the following items be adopted.
That this 1996 A.A.D. instruct the E.C. to ensue that no
D.F.C. agrees to change in working practices that effects
depots outside their district without full and proper
consultation with the E.C. and D.F.C.s concerned.
Furthermore any D.F.C. failing to comply with this policy be
disciplined as per rule 30.
REST DAY WORKING
Following a debate on working averages the members
request an agreed method of calculation. Proposed S. Weller
& seconded D. Griffiths. “That this Branch (Brighton)
instruct the L.D.C. to calculate the ‘mean’ of all those
available to work to established the average of rest day
worked.” Vote 12 for 3 against.
“That this Branch (Brighton) instructs the L.D.C. to
recalculate the rest day worked average of Bros. S. Smith, J.
Payne, S. Doyle & C. Horlock.” Vote 12 for 3 against.
BRANCH OFFICERS AND COMMITTEE ELECTION
The following members were proposed and nominated to
stand for office for 1996.
Chairman D. Griffiths, proposed D. Swaffield & seconded
W. Sims
Vice Chairman S. Fuller, proposed S. Weller & seconded W.
Jones
Secretary C. Newton, proposed D. Swaffield & seconded F.
Langridge
Assistant Secretary S. Weller, proposed S. Smith &
seconded M. Thompson
Trustees J. Osborne, proposed C. Newton & seconded S.
Smith. W. Jones, proposed S. Weller & seconded D.
Shephard
Auditors I. Wilson, proposed S. Weller & seconded D.
Griffiths. T. Fielding, proposed M. Thompson & seconded
D. Shephard.
District Council Delegate C. Newton, proposed W. jones &
seconded T. Fielding.
Branch Committee
F. Langridge, m. Thompson, P. Horan, M. Hawkins, I.
Osborne, B. Brown, S. Smith, D. Swaffield, M. Hunter,
M. Allen, A. Warburton, W. Sims & W. Mackenzie
L.D.C. Rep. M. Hawkins, proposed C. Newton & seconded
D. Griffiths.
ANDY GREGG COLLECTION
Andy Gregg (left) being presented with his certificate after
passing his Train Driving course c1994 by David Sawyer
(Operations Director)
TIM WOOD COLLECTION
TIM WOOD COLLECTION
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON NOVEMBER 13th 1995
Members present M. Hawkins, C. Newton, A. Flowers, A. Warburton, I. Osborne, R. Matthews, J. Osborne,
M. Cole, & A. Thaxter.
Minutes of the meeting held on 9th October were read and accepted as recorded. Proposed I. Osborne & seconded C. Newton.
*L.D.C. Rep. J. Osborne made the point that L.D.C.’s cannot be “Instructed” only recommended too as they were a separate
council within the machine.
L.D.C. Report
J. Osborne gave account of the agenda meeting of the 12th October, items raised
Brighton mess room accommodation, Continued “Smoking” in the main corridor, 1996 Holiday arrangements, Car Parking
Security, Future of Thameslink work, Traction knowledge – No.1 Link (Diesel work), Minor changes to roster, now posted,
Booking of expenses on medical tests, Men riding in cabs, other than driver.
H&S Report
M. Hawkins gave an account of a recent H&S walkabout Brighton area
North End L.W.S. work still to be done, until all work completed the current ban is still on, members please note, Brighton
mess room – standards off cleaning etc., Installation of drinks fountain – issue is still being progressed by L.D.C. and H&S
Reps., Making copies of incident reports and signal irregularity forms, Improvement in the wearing of H.V. Vests
DISTRICT COUNCIL REPORT
Chris Newton gave a report on the council meeting held on 30th October. Items reviewed were
I.O.W. Franchise and the effect on our colleagues, E.P.S. Trade Union membership and recognition, Gatwick Express
possibility of a branch split with Battersea, Cowden anniversary, a report by the District Secretary on the future of the safety
of working, Industrial Tribunals, recent cases being lost as a result of poor agreement and the Tribunals lack of support
towards workers report, Joint Branches groups a joint campaign by branches to highlight collective problems within the
industry, Unofficial Circulars/letters the recent campaign groups method to under mind our society, ASLEF restructuring a
revised up date on how we operate as a trade union, Sunday working agreements, Proposal for trails of a system know as spa
dram.
A.O.B.
ELECTION OF Branch Officer 1996
All nominations carried with the following exceptions
Owing to the Chairman, vice Chairman, Secretary, assistant Secretary being on one shift a review of either meetings or some
form of substitute of Branch Officials will be made.
Under society rules the nominations for A.A.D. was invalid, as a review as to the method of selection a delegate ws being
undertaken.
ITEMS FOR A.A.D.
Following items were submitted as this branch
That this 1996 A.A.D. instructs the E.C. to achieve an extension of the Deafness Compensation Scheme to all members who
are or were in the B.R. Drivers line of promotion.
That this 1996 A.A.D. instructs the E.V. to ensure that the findings of all Railtrack inquiries involving member grades are
made available to the E.C. and officers of the society.
Proposed J. Osborne & seconded R. Matthews. Vote unam.
ITEM FOR L.D.C.
“That this branch recommends to the L.D.C. too ensure that any member driver or Train(wo)man who wishes to resume “Rest
Day Working” within twelve months of making themselves permanently unavailable shall take their previous position on
depot average (which ever is the greater)on the Rest Day Working list(s). ”
A.O.B. (MATTERS ARISING)
Repair books on 1963 type stock
Contents of repairs not being looked at by fleet fitters, fitters have not been instructed to check, L.D.C. would raise this matter
with T.C.M.
Cab doors on 319 stock berthed in L.W.S. not being closed by staff in particular intermediate door within 8 or 12 car
formations. L.D.C. would ask for staff to be made aware of this problem.
Current chairman is standing down, members expressed their thanks for all his work as chairman. Proposed J. Osborne &
seconded R. Matthews. “That a vote of thanks be recorded for the work Bro. m. Hawkins has done for this branch as
Chairman.” Vote unam.
Dave Griffiths
MINUTES OF BRANCH A.G.M. MEETING
HELD ON DECEMBER 5th 1995
Members present C. Newton, M. Hawkins, A. Thaxter, J. Osborne, I. Osborne, D. Griffiths, S. Weller, M. Allen,
P. Evans, M. Thompson, R. Bond, D. Shephard, G. Wlodarckzy, M.Yorke-Williams, N. Wallhead, R. Stobbart,
W. Jones, L. Berry, M.. McCabe, M. Hunter & D. Swaffield.
Branch Standing Orders
A revision of the orders was conducted by the Secretary and Bro. P. Edwards, these were read out. Adjustments to the wording
on three items, these orders now form the Branch Standing Orders (Amended 1995). Proposed S. Weller & seconded M.
Thompson. “That this meeting accepts the revised Standing Orders.” Vote unam.
ELECTION OF BRANCH OFFICERS
Following the nominations and elections of members to serve as Branch Officers at the October and November meetings, the
election of officers stands as recorded with one acception, “That Bro. M. Allen to be Assistant Branch Secretary and Bro. S.
Weller to be a committee member.”
Proposed J. Griffiths & seconded D. Griffiths. “That the election of Officers Stands as recorded.” Vote unam.
Members proposed a vote of thanks to be recorded on the A.G.M. minutes for Bro. M. Hawkins who has been Chairman and
who wishes to stand down.
Proposed M. Allen & seconded J. Osborne. “That this Branch wishes to record a vote of thanks for all the hard work our
chairman had done whilst in office.” Voted unam.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON DECEMBER 5th 1995
Members present C. Newton, M. Hawkins, A. Thaxter, J. Osborne, I. Osborne, D. Griffiths (New Chairman),
S. Weller, M. Allen, P. Evans, M. Thompson, R. Bond, D. Shephard, G. Wlodarckzy, M.Yorke-Williams,
N. Wallhead, R. Stobbart, W. Jones, L. Berry, M.. McCabe, M. Hunter & D. Swaffield.
Correspondence
Nominations for National School
Proposed M. Hawkins & seconded M. Allen. “That Bro. D. Swaffield is nominated to be selected.” Vote unam.
1996 A.A.D. Delegate
Proposed M. Thompson & seconded D. Swaffield. “That Bro. S. Weller be nominated.”
Proposed J. Osborne & seconded W. Jones. “That Bro. C. Newton be nominated.”
Chairman then called for a vote as branch had two nominations. Vote was 8 S. Weller & 8 C. Newton, and 4 abstained.
Chairman cast vote in favour of S. Weller. Bro. S. Weller nominated, carried.
L.D.C. REPORT
Bro. J. Osborne spoke about the following issues.
Boxing Day Holiday working, December/January 1st rotation.
Recent handbrake warning notice, members raised following problems.
Lose carpets on units being thrown from trains causing damage to shoe gear and other parts of units, also drivers are thinking
these are bodies.
Late night trains Bournemouth/Brighton trains subject to serious acts of vandalism. L.D.C. agreed to raise these issues with
Train Crew Manager.
H&S REPORT
Bro. M. Hawkins spoke about the following issues.
Slight improvements to North End L.W.S., ban is still in place on change ends non corridor stock.
Brighton messroom some improvement as a result of contract cleaning, H&S Rep looking for further improvements.
White light crossing No.1 platform, Brighton, the problem of non railway and other railway departments fail to comply with
current safety rules, ways are being sort to overcome this.
A.O.B.
THAMESLINK STATEMENT OF INTENT
Functional Council have informed local reps. Of their intention for dedicated Link Working at Brighton.
L.D.C. in conjunction with D.F.C. are holding open surgery days at Brighton to explain, listen and council Brighton Drivers
on the whole issue.
Briefly the information so far.
Dedication of work June 1996.
Volunteers Option.
Possible complete separate from South Central management by year 2000.
Option on three ways drivers will be recruited.
More information will be given when all is known.
Brighton Depot as a whole will change affecting every driver.
BRANCH BADGE
Proposal to promote, and produce a Brighton Branch/Depot badge. Chairman tabled the details of a badge for Brighton, the
sale of thes to go to funding of a Branch Banner.
Proposed M. Hawkins & seconded D. Swaffield. “That the branch will support and endorse the proposals put before this
meeting.” Vote unam.
ALAN PENTNEY COLLECTION
Three other colours were made, plus a black version for Brighton Branch Officers of 1996
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON FEBRUARY 12th 1996
Members present D. Griffiths, C. Newton, M. Hawkins, S. Weller, J. Osborne, I. Osborne, M. Freeman, M. Gray, C. Ailleo, F.
Langridge, D. Swaffield, S. Smith, M. Thompson, P. White, M. McCabe, M. Hunter & P. Bucknell.
Correspondence
Election of A.A.D. Delegate
Moved M. Allen & seconded P. White. “That this branch supports Bro. S. Weller of Brighton in the election vote.”
Nomination of delegate for the Labour Party Conference 1996 Blackpool.
Moved S. Weller & seconded M. Hawkins. “That this branch having received correspondence for nomination of Labour Party
delegate – Blackpool, supports Bro. M. Thompson of Brighton.”
L.D.C. Report
Secretary report that changes to No. 1 Link, and Trainman’s roster were now in place.
Management had now agreed to install a cooled filter water dispenser at Brighton with on going maintenance. Kitchen area
matter still awaiting attention.
Matter arising
Question, concern over reports, that ‘Patch work’ blocking of units was being introduced at L.W.S.? (to reduce maintenance
costs etc.) L.D.C. to look into this matter as they were not aware of this happening.
Question, a new type of repair book on units was being introduces, which requires drivers removing the top copy and
submitting into the Fleet Engineer via supervisor? L.D.C. again were unaware that these were being put on units and would
raise this with management.
H&S Report
Rep reported on the (LW.S.) lighting and walkways situation, also the North End Sidings, restrictions on ‘319 Units’.
The condition of Brighton Messrooms, kitchen area i.e. tiled workshops, filter cooler system.
Vandalism on late night trains and that staff must be alert to the need to ensure that rules are carried that rules are carried out
no matter what.
Recent involvement at a joint inquiring involving a Three Bridges Driver.
New tougher safety glass to replace cab windows on “400 series” units, this will reduce the risk to drivers should objects hit
these screens.
The lack of safety briefing days on South Central T.O.U. matter to be looked into by our District Secretary.
PROPOSED THAMESLINK DEPOT/LINK
D.F.C Rep. Tony Allen explained the meeting by management D.F.C. Reps and Local Reps of the 7th February 1996.
Thameslink put forward plans on their proposals to have a link of drivers at Brighton and their intention to establish a depot at
Brighton by June 1996.
They require 28 drivers, these would be drivers that volunteer ed to transferred from South Central T.O.U. to Thameslink.
In return Thameslink were prepared to sign a 3 year contract with South Central to release the staff and that within this period
a depot would be formed and set up men would have to decided= by 1st March, T.U.P.E. conditions would apply.
Once staff have agreed, there would be no reconsideration to remain South Central. Possible 3 year to 5 year project work.
Transfer to Thameslink to be completed by June 1999.
D.F.C. explained what little information they had and what of those who declined to transfer.
Various issues were put and Answers Given where possible.
Matter Arising
Question, did T.U.P.E. apply and how. Answer, yes although after 90 days new contracts could be proposed if new employer
wish to change old one.
Question, has Thameslink management showed any move to hold open meetings. Answer, none as yet,
Question, would duties remain the same as they are now. Answer, no information was available to indicate otherwise.
Question, how would the South Central work be altered once the Thameslink work was removed. Answer, at this stage, local
Reps could not give any clear answers.
Question, will reps. Be available later to explain further points. Answer, yes D.F.C. proposed a further two depot visits, 16th &
19th February.
The branch proposed another meeting on the 19th.
BRIGHTON BRANCH COLLECTION
The Brighton A.S.L.E.F. Branch’s original banner design by Simon Weller
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON JANUARY 8th 1996
Members present M. Hawkins, M. Allen, I. Osborne, A. Thaxter, B. Brown, J. Osborne, S. Weller, A. Flowers,
I Wilson & one other name not recorded 10 members.
A.O.B.
Bro. S. Weller advised that in line with Branch decision, badges had been ordered and now received, and were available from
now for sale at £3.50. An all black version was available for Officers of the Branch.
THAMESLINK
Question, was there any further information on Thameslink proposals for Brighton. Functional Council Rep., that a meeting
was planned for 7th February 1996, with D.F.C., L.D.C. and Thameslink Management.
ROUTE LEARNERS
Question, what was the advice on the instruction issued to route learners on how they carry this out i.e. unit numbers to be
taken, train time, signature of supervisors en route? None, no one has information on this.
Question, is the route learning using the ‘Trips’ system an agreed practice? Local reps., that this has not been agreed and they
will raise this with management.
L.D.C. Report
Arising from a meeting held 5th January 1996, the following issues were raised.
Cool water system for use by drivers during hot weather ad been requested and management are looking into this.
The kitchen area was not entirely clean at all times and this was brought to management’s attention. Generally the cleaning
arrangements were satisfactory. It had been noted that water was leaking in through the ceiling in the kitchen area.
Management indicated that they were looking at this urgently, and fuses in the vicinity had been removed for staff protection.
Train Crew Manager, H.Q. had been informed.
Smoking continued to be a problem in the corridor. Management said they would speak to the T.C.S. and speak to anyone
doing this and advise them of the conditions that applied. Drivers and others could report anyone smoking and action would
be taken against them.
The issue of smoking in L.W.S. needed to be looked at. Management said that an alternative room for Train Crew will be
looked and Depot Engineer Alan Davidson is being involved.
Defect books on units were not being used by Fitters and faults and remedies are not being recorded by them. Management
advised that Fitters seem unaware of the system and Tom Tester will advise Fitters to look at the book and use the system now
in place.
Cab doors were being left open and flooding was occurring when washing takes place. Management advised that depot staff
and cleaners will be advised. Local reps should advise drivers to ensure that they close doors.
The Poor Performance procedure was discussed and management take the view that they prefer this to the Discipline
Machinery. Local Reps. Advised the branch of the effect of this procedure.
Management advised that under the ‘Statement of Intent,’ Brighton was on list ‘A’, to remain open.
Rostering of relief drivers was becoming a problem and the view was taken by staff side that in line with National
Agreements, relief drivers should be used in seniority order, and further if a driver was used on his/her rest day when a relief
driver on normal duties was available, then a claim should be submitted.
Carpets and other equipment from trains was being thrown out and could cause a hazard and for concern by drivers, who from
time to time thought that object was a body. Management will look at this, but this remained a difficult area to address.
The question of vandalism was ever present and the damage was severe. Management understood the problem and like the previous issue, this was difficult to deal with. The B.T. Police has limited resources and being given to locking up 1st class
compartment areas where the main problems was. Some trails had been carried out. Drivers acces through the train would not
be affected.
Traction training was underway, which will assist some of the present problems with traction knowledge.
H&S Report
In common with the local reps., the problem with leaking roof was being looked at. The latest information was the building
department have been notified and should have attended today to deal with this.
A problem with the kitchen work top and surrounding tiles has been reported and management are considering use of a local
contractor as the current cost of replacement work top is thought to be £1,000.
In relation to the water cooler, this was actively being pursued and management indicated the cost for bottle water in 1995, to
be £2,000.
The walkway previously reported to the branch as yet still has not been done.
Tubes for the flycatcher have run out and at present, no spares are available.
A H&S walk was programmed for this coming Friday.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON MARCH 4th 1996
Members present M. Hawkins, M. Allen, I. Wilson, D. Knight, S. Weller, C. Newton, M. Cole, A. Flowers,
I. Osborne & J. Osborne.
Correspondence
Nomination for I.T.F.
Proposed M. Hawkins & seconded S. Weller. “That Bro. M. Allen of Brighton be nominated as a candidate.” Carried unam.
L.D.C. Report
Secretary spoke about the following issues
Minor link alterations from 10th March, Bank Holiday rotation to be completed ready for next holiday period, agenda meeting
arranged matters raised at the last meeting placed.
H&S Report
Rep reported on the following issues
Problems over ants in messroom, problems regarding leaking toilets, state of Brighton station platform track rubbish etc –
matter could soon be forced upon Railtrack to do something, work on North End (L.W.S.) still not done –ban still enforce.
Again members must ensure all rules and regs. are carried out on trains especially late night trains, recent incident would have
resulted in driver being in court on charges.
THAMESLINK LINK
Bro. M. Allen spoke about the very latest developments regarding the managements proposals.
The position regarding why a new letter was draughted.
The rights under T.U.P.E. which must apply.
Reference to the position of junior members should it arise.
Employment Relations Manager position as regards to previous meeting and the fact that matters were being altered against
any previous agreements.
Item one, position of new letter, first letter was completely misleading, after D.F.C. had meetings with management, a new
revised letter seeking volunteers was sent out to all driver members.
Item two, position of T.U.P.E. was explained as far as D.F.C. could be clear on.
Position of junior drivers being forced to go was untrue!
Employee Relation Manager was to take part is all talks
The volunteer dead line was Friday 1st March, as of Monday 4th 39 applications were received, once seniority etc had been
sorted a list of these members who had been placed posted.
Thameslink indicated a need for 28, many issues had still yet to be answered, D.F.C had reported everything to members and
it was a personal choice whether to go or stay, nothing had been withheld by D.F.C.
Tony spoke at some length on the issue of information being given or not given.
Certain information was obtained by a staff members, but had not thought to inform staff reps., this led to members accusing
Reps. of with holding information that could effect members decisions. This Tony said was completely untrue, members knew
everything that they knew the information was not being withheld just hadn’t any to give of anyone was, it was Thameslink.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON APRIL 9th 1996
Members present D. Griffiths, C. Newton, S. Weller, P. White, I. Osborne, P. Edwards, F. Langridge
& M. Hunter.
Correspondence
Election of L.P.C. delegate district No. 1 & 7
Proposed S. Weller & seconded M. Hunter. “That this branch votes of Bro. M. Thompson of Brighton.” Vote carried.
Election of Arrangements Committee District No.1 & 4 Delegate (1996 A.D.D.).
Proposed P. Edwards & seconded I. Osborne. “That this branch nominates Bro. S. Weller of Brighton for the arrangements
committee.” Vote carried
I.TF. Centenary Congress 1996
Following the decision of Bro. M. Allen to withdraw owing to ill health retirement. On giving the circular consideration the
member proposed the following. Proposed D. Griffiths & seconded F. Langridge. “That this branch nominates Bro. T.C.W.
Jones Port Talbot branch for I.T.F. Congress”
Election of District Secretary District No.1
Proposed P. Edwards & seconded P. White. “That this branch wishes to nominate Bro. Len Warboys Portsmouth Branch.”
L.D.C. Report
Items reviewed by L.D.C. at agenda meeting.
New worktop for kitchen area, track cleaning – Brighton station, reports to fly killer in messroom, lost time delay forms –
these are voluntary and driver need not fill in these, patch blocking – claims that this confirms to standards wee not clear, two
units (1963) had cab heaters wired wrongly, so that they were on permanently now have been corrected, still awaiting
outcome of Thameslink at Brighton depot, L.D.C. to agree Route norms with T.C.M., issues raised at D.O.O. meeting held by
all L.D.C. on South Central T.O.U.
H&S Report
Two items raised by members, light north end of L.W.S., doors in main corridor need attention to hinges and closing dampers.
SPECIAL REPORT ON RECALL A.A.D.
Our delegate gave a report on events as follows
Recall lasted just one day, 40 out of 46 delegate rejected E.C. rule proposal report. This being the findings of the “Ruskin
College Cambridge” into the running of our Society.
A call to retain a national roll identity restructuring cost estimated at £90,000 approx, and nothing has been achieved.
Members expressed their deepest concern on the delegates and following further debate proposed the following.
“That this (Brighton) branch wish to express it’s dismay and discuss to the fact that no progress was made at the special recall
A.A.D.
Further, although the principles of some of the items were not to the satisfaction of the delegates. The agenda items were not
debated for guidance and discretion of the E.C., with a view to draw up of further proposal.”
Moved P. White & P. Edwards.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON MAY 13th 1996
Members present D. Griffiths, M. Hawkins, M. Cole, I. Wilson, A. Flowers, J. Osborne, A. Thaxter & B. Brown
L.D.C. Report
Items raised by Reps.
New Summer Rosters to be posted, Bank Holiday Rotation and workings will be posted by 23rd May.
Thameslink scheme Brighton, the proposed link scheme is now off, drivers are not committed to their applications. L.D.C.
were not happy with Train Crew Managers handling of the announcement, nor was a list available for general information.
L.D.C. suggested that members write personal letters to Thameslink and raised their concern with them.
Loss of work to depot, Monday – Friday 2 duties and 3 Sundays.
Travel documents staff travel has changed, new photos required when renewing them, cost to be met by members themselves.
Further details on renewal are in notice case.
H&S Report
Item raised by M. Hawkins H&S Rep
Kitchen area, new worktops to be fitted very soon, some inconvenience will be caused by workmen, fire doors repairs now
been made good.
L.W.S. lighting in sidings will done soon, although North End Sidings cleared, no berthing allowed with units.
Drivers requested to make out reports and hand in a copy to T.C.S. and one to H&S Rep., this will progress faults quicker.
During winter, men to be rostered (2) safety days, one day may include safety management conflict avoidance. Mr. G. Barcley
Safety Manager was said to say when trouble starts walk away, don’t get involved. Should trains be damaged just carry out
rules and regs/fault and failures. Leave trouble passenger to police and others.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON June 3rd 1996
Members present D. Griffiths, C. Newton, M. Hawkins, W. jones, M. Allen, M. Thompson, F. Langridge
& M. Hunter
Correspondence
Election of District No.1 E.C. Member
Proposed M. allen & seconded F. Langridge. “That this branch supports Bro. W.E. Mackenzie as its nomination.” Vote Carried.
L.D.C. Report
Bro. M. Hawkins reported on the following items
Safety Briefing Days, Management indicates that items not directly related to safety might be included within these days.
D.O.O. radios, Three Bridges to Brighton. Reports that some drivers have not been able to raise the signalman due to them not
answering calls have been put to management, response was all calls should be answered, members not getting through should
reportall incidents where signalman do not answer call sent. Drivers must however Set Up all radios in these areas.
Travel Passes renewal notices, details of the renewal notices have been posted, dates when depot visits are due still to be
arranged.
Compensation leave, a revised method of informing members of whether or not they have been granted leave was to be
introduced, this involved individuals getting their replies when they booked on duty via the N.C.T. Issue on leave not being
granted early was being taken up, but position was explained why List Clerks were delaying replies, still unclear on the
problem of leave being removed even when when that leave is being refused.
Additional overtime form making out reports wea now being stopped, drivers were being requested to complete these within
their duty or at the end of work.
H&S Report
Items mentioned in report were
Reasons why kitchen refit was taking so long in Brighton messroom, new tops were to be fitted with new plumbing etc.
Lighting in the locker rooms, had to be done when more than one tube needed to be replaced. Blue light replacement, H&S
Rep. was doing out of his own pocket etc.
Members still not not wearing H.V. Vests and using unauthorised walking routes, L.W.S. to station, and that dismissals might
be used or suspension, if members do no carry out rules and regs. As per the book.
Question, as drivers we are increasingly concerned about the lack of safety briefs by our management, what is the union
doing about getting more? Answer, our D.F.C. Rep. explained the position they have been faced with. Members then debated
the issue and recommended the following resolution. “”Yhat the this branch instructs the secretary to write to our General
Secretary seeking leal advise on the issue of Staff Safety Training.” Proposed D.Griffiths & seconded W. Jones. Vote Carried
Special Acknowledgement
Our member and D.F.C. Rep. Tony Allen was to be ill health retired, all the members wished to record that we have been
honoured to have such a dedicate union member, and that he would be greatly missed by all. We wish him well in his
retirement.
ALAN PENTNEY COLLECTION
Capital Coast Express Badge
Logo was use on dedicated 8 car DIG unit (permanently coupled 4 CIG & 4 BIG)
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON JULY 8th 1996
Members present S. Weller, W. Thompson, I. Wilson, R. Matthews, M. Hunter, I. Osborne, J. Osborne,
M. Hawkins & C. Newton.
Correspondence
Correspondence from London Bridge secretary regarding fellow member Val Franklin who has been retired ill health, and has
been made house bound through the illness with little or no pension. Proposed S. Weller & seconded I. Osborne. “That this
branch wishes to donate £30 from general funds to the London Bridge Appeal.”
L.D.C. Report
Items referred to
Circular regarding “Unauthorised Riding in Cabs” position members would be put it in. All vacancy list have been suspended
until position on D.R.I. is known as to staffing levels for Train Crews.
Question to Reps.
Question, what is the position of 319 units being used for the “Capital Coast Express” who would be working them? Answer,
L.D.C. said manager have plans to introduce them on this service, but had no more information on this, until more information
became known they could not say who would be working them.
Question, why is there a 1957 ‘CEP’ unit in L.W.S.? Answer, it was explained that these were being used to replace some
VEPs, which were to be refurbished. These units were to be put on West Coast service trains, but no time had been stated as to
the date.
H&S Report
Items put to members.
H&S walk about was due to take place on Friday 12th July, lighting in L.W.S (North End) was being sorted and hopefully it
will be completed soon.
Kitchen area in messroom was now completed, issue over Worthing messroom was being sorted and hopefully points raised
would be acted on, H&S Rep would be making sure this was done.
Again H&S Rep repeated the need for all members to wear H.V. Vest when on or near the track and the need to use only
authorised walking routes.
A.A.D. REPORT
Our District delegate Simon Weller gave a report on the outcome of this years A.A.D. conference.
Main issues were.
The political policies – twining with local Labour Party areas, the removal of B.R.B.s gagging rule, the ‘Save Our Railway’
campaign, minimum service requirement – ASLEF – would be in dispute with B.R.B. if they reduced the current levels, the
1995 Pay dispute, Driver Restructuring, introduction of 37 hour week, Health & Safety of members – Railtrack inquiring
reports to be made available ot ASLEF and D.F.C. Reps –issue of driver monitoring, need to get installed of A.T.P. on routes
for 125/140 m.p.h. trains before single man agreements are made, Machinery of Negotation, issue of release of Full Time
Union Reps and officers to carry out union policy, call for branches to set up special meetings with the agenda of Society
restructuring & chanes to Society rules.
Delegate stated that at last this year’s conference produced a clearer method of policy working together that made this year’s
conference. It was clear that work on restructuring our Society was needed and that all branched could play an important part
in that process.
Moved M. Hawkins & seconded I. Wilson. “That a vote of thanks be recorded for a full report on the A.A.D.” Vote carried.
Motion put before branch as follows, proposed S. Weller & seconded M. Thompson. “That this branch instructs the Secretary
to arrange a meeting of the Branch Committee to set up an agenda and dates for a special branch meeting(s) to debate and
discuss the restructuring of this Society.” Vote carried.
A.O.B.
Proposed motion, moved S. Weller & seconded M. Hunter. “That this branch (Brighton A.S.L.E.F.) deplore the fundamental
inaccuracies contained in the April 1996 issue of the Sectional Appendix (Railtrack South Zone). Furthermore this branch
instructs the E.C. to raise the matter with the appropriate bodies within and outside the railway industry to ensure that the
errors are corrected and we, as drivers can trust such safety critical documents.” Vote carried.
Proposed motion, Moved M. Thompson & seconded M. Hawkins. “That this Brighton A.S.L.E.F. Branch donate £50 from the
Political Fund to the Mersey Dockers Appeal. Furthermore the Branch Secretary be instructed to send fraternal greetings and
best wishes in seeing an early and successful conclusion to their struggle.” Vote carried.
Moved J. Osborne & seconded M. Hawkins. “That this branch makes a presentation to Bro. Tony Allen for the work that he
has done for this branch and our Society.” Voted carried
TONY ALLEN RETIREMENT PRESENTATION 12th AUGUST 1996
Left - Right: Floyd Langridge, Mark Thompson, Chris Newton, Tony Allen, Dougal & Spike Jones.
Tony Allen started on the footplate in c1961 at Salisbury.Tony will best remembered as a driver at Tunbridge Wells West.
With the closure of the "THE WELLS" in May 1985, Tony moved to Seaford E.M.U.T. via Redhill M.T. as a redundant driver.
With the closure of Seaford depot on 13th February 1994, Tony transferred to Brighton as a redundant driver. Tony remained
at Brighton until his retirement.
Through out his career, Tony was an active A.S.L.E.F. member and held various A.S.L.E.F. positions within the Branch or as a
local level represenative. Tony was on the Southern Region Sectional Council "B" prior to the disbanding of Sectional
Councils. With formation of the South Central Driver's D.F.C. Tony served in this position until his early retirement through
ill health retirement.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON AUGUST 12th 1996
Members present F. Langridge, S. Weller, M. Thompson, P. Evans, D. Shephard, D. Swaffield, W. Jones,
D. Griffiths, C. Newton & M. Allen (retired)
Correspondence
1997 A.A.D. Delegate Nominations.
Formal letter seeking nomination received by Secretary from Bro. S. Weller. Proposed M. Thompson & seconded D.
Shepherd. “That this branch supports Bro. S. Weller and nominated him as our candidate.” Vote carried, no other nominations.
L.D.C. Report
Two items to report, ‘Bank Holiday’ rotation and workings now posted. Recent review of all walking routes resulted in some
minor changes. Purpose of this was connected with Driver Restructure.
Question, with regards to walking times and that most walking times remain unchanged. Information received s that some
areas have changed i.e. Horsham & Three Bridges? Answer, this information will be passed on to L.D.C. and matter looked
into.
Question, agreement to provide Relief drivers with at lease one driving turn per week, when is this going to be, as Relief
Drivers are still not getting rostered any driving duties? Answer, this issue will be put to the L.D.C. reps for them to take up
with management.
A.O.B.
WORKING ARRANGEMENTS AT THAMESLINK
Secretary informed branch that correspondence had taken place regarding the allegations of Bedford members working
excessive hours and abrogating other working practices.
Letters were read out to members and the reasons why we had put this matter before the E.C. Following a debate a motion
was put forward.
“That this Branch is disappointed by the (Ref. Resolution 811/393) in letter dated 9th August 1996. Furthermore in view of the
wide ranging abrogations of National Conditions of Service, and the immoral flaunting of safe working practices, this branch
instructs the E.C. to undertake a through investigation and action to prevent any further weakening of the Safety Standards.”
Proposed S. Weller & seconded M. Allen.
Members also requested that this branch applauded the Secretary for taking up the issue.
Question, regards to the issue of excessive hours, an allegation that a member of this Branch has been working excessive
hours covering Thameslink Bedford diagrams by telephone rostering? This matter will be put to the L.D.C. to take up and
report back.
Question, a member of this branch has had his annual leave (2nd week) deferred to allow him to cover T.C.S. position, can this
matter be looked into? This will be looked into D.F.C will also be informed.
INFORMATION
An open meeting is being arranged by Barnham Branch, open to all train crews, venue Barnham Hotel, 11:00, 8th September,
A.G.S. and E.C. member attending.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON NOVEMBER 11th 1996
Members present C. Newton, M. Hawkins, M. Allen (Retired), T. fielding, I .Wilson, M. Ryan, A. Warburton,
R. Matthews, M. Cole, M. Bullen, S. Weller & J. Osborne.
Minutes
Chairman read out the previous minutes of the meeting held on
Point of order called
Bro. S. Weller raised an objection that retired member M. A. Allen was barred from seconding or proposing motions and minutes. He quoted society rule 6 of the ASLEF Rule Book.
Bro Allen replied by stating that the only area Retired Members were debarred was on voting.
Chairman remained unclear on issue and requested advice. Secretary was instructed to seek as clarification and until otherwise
a retired members name remained on record of minutes.
Proposed A. Warburton & seconded T. Fielding.
“That the minutes are accepted as recorded and reflect the business of that meeting.”
Correspondence
Letters received by secretary
Acknowledgement to letter sent regarding B.R.A.S.S. 2 contributions of members. Legal advise was being sort from Queen’s
Consul regarding the withdrawal of N.S.C. from matching contribution.
District Council Report
Bro. C. Newton District Council Delegate gave a report, District Secretary Len Warboys gave a report on the S.W.T. pay
package. The deal was for between £26.4k and £25.3k average 44.5 hrs per week, Sunday included. This represented to 109%
earn level increase pension increase of 51% - £13,000, 6-11 shifts. Additional leave (32 actual days), D.O.O./mileage
incorporated into salary. Package was presented to the E.C. which supported the S.W.T. D.F.C. and to put before our members.
Meetings would be arranged to discuss the acceptance.
South Central (Connex Rail Ltd) were due to start talks with D.F.C. Reps on November 5th, and talks were also due to start
with South Eastern. As with other deals the membership would decide.
E.C. Member Bill Mackenzie also reported on the latest package. A list of all companies that have been settle had been put
into the journal.
Society restructuring following A.A.D. decisions on this the E.C. set about to draw up measures. These included reducing the
G.S. and A.G.S. pay, altering the number of E.C. meetings, E.C. member would work more from home, reducing time of
A.A.D. conference days, restructuring Head Office staff and introduce cost cutting throughout the Society.
L.D.C. Report
Bro. John Osborne reported
Some alterations to working cause by the 8 weekly P.A.s meant some changes to links had to take place, these would be
posted for member to see. The rostering of Relief Driver/Passed Trainman “Ds” owing to success by D.F.C., these men would
now be rostered to work driving turns under arrangements reached with management.
Annual leave change overs, these were now done, those members who were unsuccessful had been informed as to why..
Questions, a report that C.C.E. trains were to worked by other depots was this true. Answer, this was not true, the situation
was that the 319 units would be manned as at present.
H&S Report
Bro. Mick Hawkins reported on the following
L.W.S. the problem of broken glass etc left lying around, this had been noted and measures were in hand to clear up this. But
this remained an on going issue all staff working in this area were asked to dispose of glass in the correct way.
Exposed cables button end of No.4 Mont. Sdgs.
Damaged ceiling area in locker room ‘C’ this was to be costed etc.
Issue of personal attack alarms, these were only being issued if a member of staff applied to Traincrew Manager’s office, they
were not a general issue.
Legal guidance on H&S rep. position as their powers on imposing any kinds of sanctions. This was concern our rep as he could be made.
NOMINATION OF BRANCH OFFICERS FOR 1997
Chairman
I. Wilson, proposed S. Weller & second M.Cole.
Vice Chair
D. Griffiths, proposed S. Weller & seconded T. Fielding
Secretary
C. Newton, proposed M. Hawkins & seconded T. Fielding
S. Weller, proposed M. Cole & seconded A. Warburton
Assistant Secretary
P. Edwards, proposed S. Weller & seconded M. Bullen
Trustees
J. Osborne, propose R. Matthews & seconded M. Ryan
W. Jones, proposed B. Brown & seconded T. Fielding.
Auditors
T. Fielding proposed S. Weller & seconded B. Brown
A. Warburton, proposed M. Hawkins & seconded M. Cole
District Council Delegate
C. Newton, proposed M. Hawkins & seconded J. Osborne
S. Weller, proposed M. Cole & seconded A. Warburton
Trade Council Delegate
C. Newton, proposed S. Weller & seconded A. Warburton
Labour Party Delegate
M. Thompson, S. Weller & M. Bullen
Committee members
The following committee members are re-elected in block
F. Langridge,
Nominated as committee members
R. matthews, proposed A. Waburton & seconded M. Bullen
P. Evans, proposed S. Weller & seconded A. Warburton
A. Thaxter, proposed S. Weller & seconded M. Cole
M. Bullen, proposed M. Cole & seconded S. Weller.
Jimmy Edwards receiving his retirement certificate from Dave Sawyer (Operation Manager) in 1996.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON
Members present D. Griffiths, C. Newton, I. Wilson, T. Fielding, D. Swaffield, F. Langridge, S. Smith,
A. Warburton, P. Edwards, M. Thompson, P. White, M. Hunter, M. Allen
& Special Guest D.F.C. Rep. R. Luxford.
Matters Arising from previous minutes.
Following the branch decision to raise the issue of the abrogation of Conditions by Thameslink Bedford with our E.C.,
comments were made that we were out of order in the allegations, that a member of this branch was as guilty and that we need
to address this problem before raising this matter with our E.C. Members.
Question raised by Bro. P. Edwards, further comments and points made by by members I. Wilson, M. Thompson & D.F.C.
Rep. R. Luxford.
L.D.C. Matters
Apologies from L.D.C. Secretary, unable to attend due to shift patterns and being at work.
H&S Matters
Apologies from H&S Rep, unable to give a report due to working. Brief report given in his absence.
Issuing of personal attack alarms to drivers and trainman “D”, medical restriction on drivers and jobs available, incidents
involving white light crossing at Gatwick Airport – these are being raised with Railtrack/Gatwick Airport, drivers making out
reports following incidents/SPADs.
A.O.B.
Proposed motion
Following the issuing of letters by the Pension Management to members on the issue of B.R.A.S.S. 2 contributions a motion
was put forward. All members present were concerned by the action of Connex Rail Ltd., and the Pensions Management.
Proposed P. White & seconded M. Allen.
“That this
Ltd. In its action to no longer match increases in members BRASS Contributions and that matching contributions will not be
made for new applicants.
Thereby making the Railway Pension /scheme less favourable to existing members than it was under the B.R. Board.
Also that members were not made aware of these changes until seven days after the cut off date.
Furthermore the E.C. be instructed to investigate the possibility, in conjunction with our sister trade unions of mounting an
effective challenge to Connex Rail Ltd. Action in this request.” Vote carried.
Special Report D.F.C. Rep. R. Luxford.
Bro. R. Luxford D.F.C. gave a report on the following issues
Revised Grievance Forms,
Agreements on Relief Drivers working trains allowing Group Standard 3251 to be complete,
Instruction of Relief Drivers in leaf fall period,
Payment arrangements of L215 to members undergoing Safety Training,
Drink & Drugs Policy – method of reporting smells etc in cabs that might implicate staff as being under the influence,
Medicals to be by birth date, occupational health service – if being use L215 to apply,
Staff members – route learning – booking off away from home depots by prior arrangements,
Setting up a working party into security of drivers at work, issuing of personal attach alarms to staff,
Route & traction knowledge – members unable to carry out duties to retain own hours etc., also signing on times, Travel I.D.
Cards,
Track safety equipment on Class 37 locos,
New Connex Rail Ltd uniforms type style etc and what’s being issued,
New revised Brighton – London fast service using 319 units,
Issues regarding Horsham staff reps Bro. Mark Allfrey and his dismissal on a charge of fraud.
Following this report, the branch proposed the following resolution.
“That this branch instruct the branch secretary to write to the General Secretary and the E.C. regarding the disciplinary action
taken action against our staff rep. Mark Allfrey, of Horsham Branch.
Furthermore we instruct the G.S. to seek an urgent review of the discussion to dismiss our colleague, and failing to get a
retraction, instruct the E.C. to santction a ballot of Connex Rail Ltd. Members for possible industrial action over this issue.”
Proposed P. Edwards & seconded D. Swaffield. Vote Carried.
Restructuring
Connex Rail Ltd, new negotiator to take the job of restructuring is a Mr. Gary Smith, talks have et to get underway, although
management seem to think it will in by 1997.
MINUTES OF BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON NOVEMBER 11th 1996
Members present C. Newton, M. Hawkins, M. Allen (Retired), T. Fielding, I .Wilson, M. Ryan, A. Warburton,
R. Matthews, M. Cole, M. Bullen, S. Weller & J. Osborne.
Minutes
Chairman read out the previous minutes of the meeting held on
Point of order called
Bro. S. Weller raised an objection that retired member M. A. Allen was barred from seconding or proposing motions and
minutes. He quoted society rule 6 of the ASLEF Rule Book.
Bro Allen replied by stating that the only area Retired Members were debarred was on voting.
Chairman remained unclear on issue and requested advice. Secretary was instructed to seek as clarification and until otherwise
a retired members name remained on record of minutes.
Proposed A. Warburton & seconded T. Fielding.
“That the minutes are accepted as recorded and reflect the business of that meeting.”
Correspondence
Letters received by secretary
Acknowledgement to letter sent regarding B.R.A.S.S. 2 contributions of members. Legal advise was being sort from Queen’s
Consul regarding the withdrawal of N.S.C. from matching contribution.
District Council Report
Bro. C. Newton District Council Delegate gave a report, District Secretary Len Warboys gave a report on the S.W.T. pay
package. The deal was for between £26.4k and £25.3k average 44.5 hrs per week, Sunday included. This represented to 109%
earn level increase pension increase of 51% - £13,000, 6-11 shifts. Additional leave (32 actual days), D.O.O./mileage
incorporated into salary. Package was presented to the E.C. which supported the S.W.T. D.F.C. and to put before our members.
Meetings would be arranged to discuss the acceptance.
South Central (Connex Rail Ltd) were due to start talks with D.F.C. Reps on November 5th, and talks were also due to start
with South Eastern. As with other deals the membership would decide.
E.C. Member Bill Mackenzie also reported on the latest package. A list of all companies that have been settle had been put
into the journal.
Society restructuring following A.A.D. decisions on this the E.C. set about to draw up measures. These included reducing the
G.S. and A.G.S. pay, altering the number of E.C. meetings, E.C. member would work more from home, reducing time of
A.A.D. conference days, restructuring Head Office staff and introduce cost cutting throughout the Society.
L.D.C. Report
Bro. John Osborne reported
Some alterations to working cause by the 8 weekly P.A.s meant some changes to links had to take place, these would be
posted for member to see. The rostering of Relief Driver/Passed Trainman “Ds” owing to success by D.F.C., these men would
now be rostered to work driving turns under arrangements reached with management.
Annual leave change overs, these were now done, those members who were unsuccessful had been informed as to why..
Questions, a report that C.C.E. trains were to worked by other depots was this true. Answer, this was not true, the situation
was that the 319 units would be manned as at present.
H&S Report
Bro. Mick Hawkins reported on the following
L.W.S. the problem of broken glass etc left lying around, this had been noted and measures were in hand to clear up this. But
this remained an on going issue all staff working in this area were asked to dispose of glass in the correct way.
Exposed cables button end of No.4 Mont. Sdgs.
Damaged ceiling area in locker room ‘C’ this was to be costed etc.
Worthing station – staff messroom seating was to be secured to walls, flooring around sink area to be replaced.
Issue of personal attack alarms, these were only being issued if a member of staff applied to Traincrew Manager’s office, they
were not a general issue.
Legal guidance on H&S rep. position as their powers on imposing any kinds of sanctions. This was concern our rep as he
could be made
NOMINATION OF BRANCH OFFICERS FOR 1997
Chairman
I. Wilson, proposed S. Weller & second M.Cole.
Vice Chair
D. Griffiths, proposed S. Weller & seconded T. Fielding
Secretary
C. Newton, proposed M. Hawkins & seconded T. Fielding
S. Weller, proposed M. Cole & seconded A. Warburton
Assistant Secretary
P. Edwards, proposed S. Weller & seconded M. Bullen
Trustees
J. Osborne, propose R. Matthews & seconded M. Ryan
W. Jones, proposed B. Brown & seconded T. Fielding.
Auditors
T. Fielding proposed S. Weller & seconded B. Brown
A. Warburton, proposed M. Hawkins & seconded M. Cole
District Council Delegate
C. Newton, proposed M. Hawkins & seconded J. Osborne
S. Weller, proposed M. Cole & seconded A. Warburton
Trade Council Delegate
C. Newton, proposed S. Weller & seconded A. Warburton
Labour Party Delegate
M. Thompson, S. Weller & M. Bullen
Committee members
The following committee members are re-elected in block
F. Langridge, I. Osborne, M. Hunter, P. Horan, S. Smith, B. Brown, M. Hawkins & D. Swaffield.
Nominated as committee members
R. Matthews, proposed A. Waburton & seconded M. Bullen
P. Evans, proposed S. Weller & seconded A. Warburton
A. Thaxter, proposed S. Weller & seconded M. Cole
M. Bullen, proposed M. Cole & seconded S. Weller.
MINUTES OF A.G.M. BRANCH MEETING
HELD ON
Members present D. Griffiths, C. Newton, P. Horan, S. Gandey, R. Pennick, D. Jupp, S. Fuller, H. Hassan,
N. Wallhead, N. Moye, T. Fielding, J. Debenham, R. Stobbart, F. Langridge, G. Lawrence, D. Neish, M. Bullen,
R. Matthews, B. Brett, G. Wlodarkcy, P. White, C. Horlock, M. McCabe, M. Thompson, S. Weller, S. Spicer,
M. Allen (Retired), M. Hawkins, I. Osborne, J. Osborne, S. Toughey, A. Pettett, W. Jones, P.J. Mantell, M. Ryan,
A. Warburton, T. Parsons, L. Berry, R. Knevett & A. Gregg.
Letter from E.C.
Letter received from the General Secretary was in response to a point of clarification on the involvement of our retired
members. A question was raised at the previous meeting was that retired members had no position as to proposing and
seconding and could speak the acting chairman at the meeting remained unclear and instructed the secretary to write to Head
Office. The reply received stated that retired members can speak on, have as view before the branch, can also move and
second, the only exclusion was to vote.
Liverpool Dockers
A circular received from head office related to the current on going dispute which as resulted in dockers being locked out of
their jobs.
Following the reading of this circular the following motion was put to the branch.
Moved M. Thompson & seconded P.J. Mantell. “That this branch having noted the correspondence wishes to donate £25 from
the General funds towards this appeal.” Vote Carried.
L.D.C.Report
Bro. John Osborne gave the following report on L.D.C. issues
Boxing Day service Connex & Thameslink were to run a limited service and a list of volunteers has been made, there were 11
connex duties and 4 Thameslink, 17 names were on the list.
Booking on duty at the correct time. This was to be monitored from now on and staff failing to be on time would be warned
and if continued then disciplinary action would be used.
Staff reporting for duty after sickness, members should note that when reporting back to work after a period of sick, they must
do so before mid day to be able to work the next day if they report after twelve non, they would not be able to work, but told
to contact them the next day before noon to be able to work and that this would be the following next turn of duty.
Driver Restructure Package
As members will have seen posted the offer of £17k basic has been rejected by the D.F.C. and that they would now be going
back to the E.C. with this offer.
H&S Report
Bro. Mick Hawkins gave the following report on H&S matters
Locker room damage ceiling, this was down to be repaired and it was now awaiting the work to be done.
Worthing messroom, there has been some improvement although it still could be better.
Mont Sdgs (L.W.S.) contracts to repair lighting were in hand
Unauthorised walking across platform 3 into Mont Sdgs., it had been noted that this was still going on, members should note
that their job and financial claim against the railway was being seriously put in danger by staff n ot observing the correct
walking routes.
Questions raised the repainting of unit ends in yellow, this area was being reduced, why? Answer, position explained as to the
amount of area painted yellow.
Question some of the foot crossings in L.W.S. were slippery is anything being done. Answer, H&S Rep was unaware of this,
he would be looking into this and asked for all locations to be noted, he also stated that if at anytime members had a H&S
matter to report it to the Production /managers or to the supervisors, once staff had made a report on a safety matter he could
act on it quicker than he could if it only come to his attention on a walk about/safety day.
ELECTION OF BRANCH OFFICERS FOR 1997
All nominations were elected except for Secretary & District Council
Secretary
C. Newton votes 19 & S. Weller votes 17, C. Newton elected on a majority.
District Council
C. Newton votes 17 & S. Weller 18, S. Weller elected on a majority.
A.O.B.
Bro. M. Hawkins acknowledge the work of the current chairman had done during his term of office and wished it to recorded
in the minutes and called for a vote of thanks. Moved M. Hawkins & seconded C. Newton. “That a vote of thanks be given to Bros. D. Griffiths.” Voted carried.
Bro. M. Allen spoke of the retired member Bro. Ron Lifford who had been on Sectional Council Officer over many years for
the Southern Region, had gone into hospital in London. Tony spoke about the work he had done and suggested that a card
wishing him well could be sent on behalf of members.
Tony Allen also raised the item referred to earlier regarding the position of retired members. He sort the chairman’s
permission to submit a motion on the subject, chairman agreed.
Speaking on the item, Tony Allen now a retired member raised the issue that was questioned at the previous branch meeting.
In that meeting a member questioned the rights of a retired member in moving or seconding a motion or minutes of the
branch.
Society policy on this was contained within the Societies rules and the rights of retired members was held in rule 6 clause (11)
the only thing these members were barred from was to vote, in all other aspects they could speak for or against motions. The
action taken by the member was to attempt to stop retired member having any influence on debate, which was against society
policy and disloyal to trade union members in general.
The member stated that he was not intending to stop retired members from attending meetings only to their rights as he felt
that they were only able to speak.
He apologised for causing some doubt about the retired members involvement in the branch.
Resolution.
“That this branch condemns the action of some branch members in attempting to silence retired members by restricting them
from moving and seconding a motion or to assisting branch officers.
This is a disloyal act against those who have retired after a life time of loyalty to our society, and who are Honoured members
of the branch.” Moved M. Allen & seconded P. White. Votes for 24 & against 16, vote carried.
ITEMS FOR A.A.D.
MEDICAL RESTRICTION ITEM
That this 1997 A.A.D. instruct the E.C. to action the
acceptance, by the appropriate bodies of hearing aids
that correct the deficiencies of our members who would
presently de deemed unfit for driving duties. Moved S.
weller & seconded S. Toughey.
A.O.B.
Forthcoming General Election
Following the trade unions backing for a return of a
Labour Government, Bro. P. White put forward the
following motion.
“That this branch wishes to donate the amount £170
from its political fund. This to be present to the Brighton
Labour Party, and to be used in the campaign for the
Pavilion Ward Candidate in the General Election
campaign.” Moved P. White & seconded R. Pennick.
Vote carried.
Proposed, revised Branch Standing Orders, Bro. S.
Weller submitted a revised set of orders to be adopted by
this A.G.M. current standing orders were “claimed” to
be “out of rule with Societies rule book,” and submitted
an amended set.
Chairman asked that each amendment to be read out and
members could consider the amendments. A lengthy
debate took place into these amendments.
1 On rights of retired members, there was no mention as
to their rights or involvement within the branch.
2 There was amendments to election/nominations of
both branch officers and local reps.
3 Changes to suspension of certain standing orders
4 Amendments to motions/resolution and debate.
Owing too the debate over changes to certain standing
orders, the Chairman would not allow any further
extension to discuss the changes and ruled them “out of
time” to be referred to another meeting (A.G.M.).
It is recorded that previous branch orders state that only
amendments to Standing Orders can be made at or
during the A.G.M. of that year in which the A.G.M. is
held.
Brighton Branch Retirement Presentations
December 1996 Christmas Social
Above Ray Hammond receiving his retirement certificate &
Fifty year medallion from Bill MacKenzie & Tony West A.G.S.
Above George Tew receiving his retirement presentation from
Bill Mackenzie, Len Warboys & Tony West ASLEF A.G.S.
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