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 The First World War 1914 - 18


 

In common with other British railways, the LB&SCR was brought under government control during the First World War. Until 

then it had carried relatively little heavy freight for much of its existence, but this situation changed dramatically at the 

outbreak of war. The railway was responsible for carrying the bulk of the stores and munitions  delivered to the British troops 

on the continent, principally through its ports of Newhaven and (to a lesser degree) Littlehampton. This included nearly seven 

million tons of freight, including 2.7 million tons of explosives. It necessitated an additional 53,376 freight trains over the four 

years of the war, as well as an additional 27,366 troop trains.

This additional traffic required substantial improvements to the railway infrastructure, notably at Newhaven harbour, where 

electric lighting was installed, but also at Three Bridges, where a new freight marshalling yard was established, and at 

Gatwick and Haywards Heath, where passing sidings were constructed so that the frequent passenger trains would not be 

impeded by the slower-moving freight. Some munitions trains were routed to Newhaven via the Steyning Line to Brighton so 

as to avoid congesting that part of the Brighton main line which had only two tracks.

Prior to the First World War engine cleaners received no holidays. However, engine cleaners who had worked as a fireman for at least 9 months out of the previous 12 months were awarded 3 days annual holiday; but only approved fireman were able to meet to meet this requirement and by the time they could fill 9 months of the year with firing turns they had virtually ceased to be cleaners. Moreover, even those footplatemen who were entitled to a few days’ holiday were forbidden from taking it during the summer service. 

Therefore some cleaners/fireman belonged to Territorial Army or to the Royal Navy Reserve. This was not them being patriotic, but it was a way of getting paid holiday whilst attending summer camp each year. But things caught up with them in August 1914 when the Great War broke out.

The Territorials and Reservists were mobilised almost immediately and caught up in the patriotic fever which swept through the nation. Many others volunteered for active service. 

By the end of August, Brighton had seen the departure of 25 enginemen; 
18 cleaners, 
3 approved firemen 
4 firemen. 

The exodus continued in September with another 16 departures; 
8 cleaners, 
5 approved firemen  
3 firemen. 

Five  more volunteers went in October - November; 
3 cleaners 
2 firemen. 

Thus in a very short time, Brighton had seen a total of 
29 cleaners
8 approved firemen 
9 firemen 
all going off to fight for their country. This was approximately one in ten of the entire footplate grade at Brighton. 

Only 2 of the 46 loco-men did not return after the war was over. It is possible that most of them served in the Railway Operating Division which had a causality rate much lower than in the trenches.
PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN

This sudden depletion of loco staff raised concerns within the locomotive department and a notice was duly issued by Lawson 

Billinton Locomotive Superintendent, stating that the footplate staff could best serve their country by staying put and 

continuing in their normal jobs. A lot of trains were going to be needed to supply the British forces in France and those trains 

couldn’t run without engine crews. Indeed, from thenceforth any enginemen who wanted to ‘join up’ for military service would 

first have to hand in their notice to the L.B.S.C.R.: in other words they would have to resign from their job on the railway. 

 

PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN


A scene at Brighton railway station

 

On the Western Front men were living and dying in the rat infested mud of the trenches, whilst back in ‘Blighty’ a tremendous 


war effort was being maintained to keep the mincing machine supplied. Britain’s railways were geared up to carry huge 


consignments of war materiel including train load after train load of ‘cannon fodder’  both human and equine; train load 


after train load of hay and straw for the horses, rations and supplies for the troops, guns, munitions and the rest. Also, of 


course, there was a contra-flow of Ambulance trains bringing back the wounded and the maimed. Most of this rail traffic 


converged on the sea ports of South-East England and Newhaven played a major part of this operation.

 

Newhaven running shed was one of the smaller depots on 

the L.B.S.C.R. Before the war it could only muster a total of 

only ten locomotives. Under war conditions, Newhaven 

depot assumed an importance out of all proportion to its 

size. It provided running shed facilities for a constant 

procession of visiting engines which came and went through 

all hours of the day and night. Almost every one of these 

locomotives worked into Newhaven with a ‘MOBRAIL’ 

trains (MOBRAIL was the code-name for a goods train 

loaded with military supplies). As the war went on, more 

and more MOBRAIL’s were needed and eventually they 

were arriving in Newhaven at half-hourly intervals all 

around the clock.

As the focal point of so much activity during the war, 

Newhaven running shed simply hadn’t enough enginemen to 

cope with all the work. There was only one solution to this 

problem: enginemen were drafted in from other depots 

within the company for 3 or 4 months at a time. The 

enginemen had to be available for any turn of duty at any 

hour of the day or night and were working seven days per 

week without having a day off. The enginemen also had to 

find their own lodgings in Newhaven.

With the need for more manpower some engine drivers such 

as Bill Coney worked passed their retirement age of 60 to 

help ease the manpower shortage and finally retiring at end 

of the war in 1918 aged 62. 

  Extracted from the book

Yesterdays Once More

By Fred Rich 

 

PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN

 

A scene at Brighton railway station

 

 

In March 1915 A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary Mr. W. Warwick met with Locomotive Superintendent Lawson Billinton. W. 

Warwick was the secretary of the Locomotive men's Side Conciliation Board. Billinton explained that it had now been decided 

to pay enginemen, who were reduced in consequence of the war, their original rate of pay, notwithstanding their being 

employed on lower grade work. The proviso that all such men must transfer, if required, must, however stand still. Warwick 

agreed to the proviso was quite reasonable. Billinton stated that the men who transferred would be given first opportunity to 

go back when normal times come around again. The men would not be moved unless absolutely necessary.

Complaints between the Locomotive men Billinton where not just about pay but also working conditions. On 12th February, 

1917, the Locomotive men fielded a major deputation and met with Billinton. attending were E.S. Moore of the Running 

Department and engine drivers from Battersea, Brighton, Fratton, Horsham, New Cross, St. Leonards and Tunbridge Wells 

and a fireman from West Croydon. At the outset Billinton suggested that instead of the deputation being called 'A Grievance 

Committee', some more suitable name such as 'Improvement committee' should be found. The range of subject included: 

Derailments on Lewes turntable.

Billinton promised locking levers would be separated, but after that enginemen would be held responsible for any further 

derailments.

Space between the down local and turntable road at Montpelier Junction blocked with permanent way material.

Billinton promised to raise this with the Engineer.

Shedman Kitchin should be given a minimum driver's rate.

Billinton replied that the man was hardly a driver, and it was established that he did not take his engine more than 200 yards 

on running lines. he had no objection to Kitchin's advancement when possible and when a suitable vacancy occurred.

Distribution of the 4s.9d and 8s. pay rates.

Billinton reminded them of the precedence of men over the local lines and of seniority. The question of Tunbridge Wells and 

Three Bridges being classed as  main line could not be definite. The whole point rested with the class of worked carried out.

Seniority arrangements.

The delegation's proposal, Billinton explained, would mean putting up 63 men and putting down 139, and therefore 

detrimental to the majority. The men raised problems of seniority relating to Battersea men transferred to West Croydon, and 

pointed that the defence of the realm list, hung up in the shed caused dissatisfaction in the matter.

Punishment of men exceeding speed limits.

Billinton gave particular instances where men had been suspended, pointing out previous cases against them. In the case of 

speed limits interfering with the timekeeping of trains to the extent of making the time shown in the time book impossible, the 

lost time must be explained. Billinton took the opportunity to elucidate the new method of taking speed by electrical recorder.

Promotion.

The men proposed that a driver or fireman should be related after working two years or 616 days in the higher grade. 

Billinton stated that this was a question largely affected by 'Universal Seniority', but best left till after the war. The men's point 

was the difficulty of getting into the second class of the Pension fund when only approved men, and the delay made back 

payments heavier.

Shed Day.

The men suggested a reduction of miles to 700 for a shed day of 10 hours. War reductions were causing a loss shed days, and 

a large number of excess miles worked in summer might be carried forward to the winter, It was stated that local men at 

Brighton got 3/4 day's pay for a shed day by working a trip before washing out. Billinton promised to look into these 

entitlements.

Withdrawal of Fogmen. 

Billinton had discuss this with Mr. Scott, notwithstanding shortage of labour, but exceptional cases could be brought to the 

Foreman's notice for consideration.

Guard Signals.

They suggested that the Under Guard should give the white light to the Head Guard when starting trains. Billinton approved 

this.

Lodging Allowance.

The men thought the present allowance should be increased owing to War conditions. Billinton promised to look into the 

matter; the difficulty was, however, that this matter was embodied in the terms of service.

Request that the walls of the ash pit at Brighton should be repaired.

Billinton assured that this would be done when the labour was available, and explained that it was proposed to release the 

Forces such men as firelighters, washer-out, etc., whose place would be place taken for the time being by firemen not required 

for traffic.

Request for the opening of the old engine shed pits at Eastbourne.

Billinton could not see the necessity for this view of the small number of engines running into Eastbourne.

Revisions of timings requested.

Billinton said this under consideration but explained 'engines should not be thrashed'. In connection it was mentioned that the 

awning at Battersea station, West London line, was dangerous for men working with the Moguls.

Shortage of overcoats.

Fireman Ede (Midhurst) and Pumping Enginemen Cornwell (Steyning) were instanced. Billinton said enquiries would be 

made at shed at whether they had a spare overcoat.

Other matters:

Disc for crossover roads at West Croydon.

Two place at Victoria where handsignal were necessary.

Question of dangerous position of regulator lubricators on dome.

Billinton pointed out that it was more dangerous to attend to these lubricators than for a cleaner to clean out the boiler.

A case of tight workings on the 9.25 am to Victoria, arriving Battersea shed about 4.30 pm, and leaving at 4.53 pm.

Moore was asked to look into it.

More leniency requested for the men at Fratton not using a time recorder

Over to Moore again.

War bonus payments for men off ill or attending deputations.

South Eastern men were paid if a medical certificate was produced. It was asked what the South Western men were doing in 

this respect.

Coal for railwaymen.

Billinton promised to enquire regarding coal from the Railway Company for private use.

Complaints by Brighton men of painters taking up a large part of the shed.

Billinton said the painters would be transferred.

Suggestion of trailer coaches being fitted so that the engine could be attached at either end, to save running bunke first.

Exhaust injectors of No.37 not having a stop plug for use in case of obstruction of top clack.

To be investigated.

 

Extracted from the book

Lawson Billinton: A Career Cut Short

 By Klaus Marx

 


POSTCARD 

                                                             L.B.S.C.R. Ambulance train 

 

                      The L. B. S. C. R. First World War service badge 

 Above

The L. B. S. C. R. First World War service badge. 

PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN



PAUL EDWARDS COLLECTION


The L.B.S.C.R. 1st World War memorial plaque at Brighton 

& London Victoria station (Central side), listing the 532 

names of the the railway employees who lost their lives 

during this war.

 

A badge was issued by the L.B. & S.C.R. to all its 

employees who were classed as in “protected 

occupations” within the Company. Similar badges 

were issued by other railway companies throughout 

the country.

This badge was produced after the railway trade 

unions put pressure on the government to protect the 

railway workers from being attacked by the general 

public who branded railway workers as cowards due 

to not being seen in military uniform.

The A.S.L.E.F. General Secretary Albert Fox wrote in 

April 1915 to the War Office.

“Our members are jeered at and even molested in the 

streets by dockyard workers and soldiers, because 

they have not been enlisted. I have no hesitation in 

asserting that our members are just as loyal to their 

country. We have a large number who would have 

joined if they had not been prevented from doing so by 

the instructions given from the War Office to the effect 

that locomotive men must not be enlisted. The whole 

of our men feel it is not a right thing for them to have 

to submit to any indignity in the streets or elsewhere 

because they are not in the Army, when they are 

prevented from joining the Army, and a request has 

been made that I appeal to the War Office to supply 

them with buttons to wear in their coats, to indicate 

that they are doing their duty for their country. 

Buttons of this description are obtainable, I 

understand, from the War Office, and my object in 

writing this letter is to ask that some arrangement 

shall be made for supplying our drivers, firemen, and 

cleaners with these buttons, to prevent any trouble in 

the future.”           

The Government War Office refused the A.S.L.E.F 

General Secretaries request as they only issued 

badges to skilled workmen of armament firms. 

However the badges where issued by some of the 

railway companies.

There were an estimated 35 different types of these 

badges produced by the different railway companies. 

Each of these badges were numbered and a recorded 

list of each employee would have been made .  

 PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN

 UNIVERSAL SENIORITY

 

Engine driver Eaves who had been reduced to the lowest driving rate for any firing work, met Locomotive Superintendent 

Lawson Billinton on the 17th October 1915. Driver Eaves pointed out that as there were vacancies above him to fill up, 

Driver Eaves felt that he ought to be considered to fill such vacancies. Billinton had already sent out a letter on the subject 

of  having a 'Universal Seniority', but the loco men in the Southern District did not want a 'Universal Seniority'. Billinton 

confirmed there would be no higher rate while there were vacancies.

Extracted from the book

Lawson Billinton: A Career Cut Short

 By Klaus Mar

 


1918 A.A.D.

 

At the 1918 A.A.D. in late May and early June. The Brighton and Doncaster delegates attempted to align the Society with the 

desire for a Allied victory (in the Great War) but was ruled out of order.

 Taken from "Driven by ideals"

 

 


POSTCARD

 

 

REMEMBERANCE 333  "L CLASS" (Baltic Tank 4-6-4T) was the last steam engine to be built by the London Brighton & South Coast Railway 

at Brighton in April 1922. The Remembrance locomotive was named in honour of the 532 L.B.S.C.R railway men who lost their lives during the 

First World War. The engine was allocated to Brighton based Engine-drivers Fred Horsman and Harry Funnell, who worked on the Southern 

Belle service between Brighton and London.  

Following the electrification of the main London to Brighton the "L CLASS" locomotives were to be designated to work on the express trains 

between London to Eastbourne.The "L CLASS" locomotives were to be withdrawn from service at the end of 1934. Remembrance was 

withdrawn from service on the 7th December 1934. This was due to the electrification of the line Between Keymer Junction to Eastbourne and 

that there was no other suitable work for the "L CLASS" locomotives. This was owing to restrictive route availability placed on this class of 

locomotive. With no other suitable work being available within the Brighton section of the Southern Railway the "L CLASS" was withdrawn. 

Remembrance along with the other six engines of this CLASS  were sent to Eastleigh works to be rebuilt into  CLASS N15x (REMEMBRANCE 

CLASS 4-6-0) locomotives.

Remembrance re-entered service on 27th June 1935 and along with the rest of her Class they spent the rest of their working lives on the South 

Western section of the Company, working semi fast trains between London Waterloo and Basinstoke. These locomotives were finally withdrawn 

from service by British Railways in 1956 and Remembrance was withdrawn at Brighton on 4th April 1956 after working a special train to 

Brighton. The Remembrance name plates are on display at the National Railway Museum at York 

 

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WHICH EXPLAINS THE EVOLUTION OF THE FOOTPLATE GRADES AND THE 

HISTORY OF THEIR TRADE UNIONS AND THE STRUGGLES TO IMPROVE 

THEIR WORKING LIVES

Known L. B. & S. C. R. Enginemen who fell in the First World War


The following information comes from the National Railway Museum and does not indicate the Loco Shed that they worked as


MOTORMEN


C.E. Howard, Sargeant.

A.S. Nevard, Private.


FIREMEN


C. Brown, A.B.

E.R. Gatson, Sapper


APPROVED FIREMEN (ENGINE CLEANERS)


W.H. Cook, Signaller.

A. French, A.B.

F.C. Hyson, Sapper

A. Minihane, Riffleman


ENGINE CLEANERS


H.C. AMONDSON, Private

R. Carey, A.B.

A. Colbarn, Sapper.

A.F.H. Dallaway, Gunner.

J. Elphick, Private.

A. Eustes, Private.

J. Francis, Private

C.E. French Private

J. Funnell Corporal.

E. Gibbons, Private.

E. Hall, Private.

F. Harmer, Sapper.

H. Heasman, Sapper.

S.A. Kimber, Sapper.

J.W. Laycock, Private

A. Mitchell, Private. Horsham Loco Shed

W.H. Salter, Lance Corporal T.W.W. Loco Shed

C.H. Saunders, Private.

G.H. Tichbamd, Private.

J.J.D. White, A.B.


LOCO DEPT


Albert Edward Fleet, Labourer, served in Northumberland Fusiliers “B” Company 1st Battalion, Private, died on 28/10/1914 

aged 27.

Herbert Hallett, Labourer, served in 20th Hussars, Private, died on 26/10/14.

A.J./Joseph Holmes, Lifter, served in Royal Navy, 1st Class Stoker on H.M.S. “Good Hope” died on 01/11/1914.

P. Inkpin, Labourer, served in Royal Sussex Regiment, 2nd Battalion, Private, died on 11/09/1914 aged 27.

Thomas Kelly, Machinist, served in Royal Nay, 1st Class Stoker on H.M.S. “Good Hope” died on 01/11/1914. 

William Robert Kerston, (Kersten) Coalman, served in Worcester Regiment 2nd Battalion, Private, died on 28/10/1914.

George Alfred Manning, M.C., Draughtsman, served in Royal Engineers 438th Field Company, Lieutenant, died on 

26/09/1917 aged 26.

William George Potter, Coalman, served in Queen’s Own (Royal West Kent Regiment) 1st Battalion, Private 26/10/1914 aged 

25.

Richard Saunders, Labourer, served in Royal Navy, Able Seamen on H.M.S. “Good Hope” died on 01/11/1914.

Thomas J. Symes, (Synes), Holder-Up, served in Royal Navy, 1st Class Stoker on H.M.S. “Abourkir” 22/09/1914.

William Young, Labourer, served in Royal Navy, 2nd Class Petty Officer on H.M.S. “Good Hope” 01/11/1914 aged 33.


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CRumsey
CJRussell
FRussell
DRyan
RWRycroft
WHSalter
ETSandell
ASanders
FTSands
SSands
ACSaunders
CHSaunders
RichardSaunders
WSaunders
EScott
CSimmons
TSimmons
ASimpkin
AJSimpson
SSims
WDSinfoil
WSinnock
HSkinner
GSSkinsley
JSlack
AISmalley
JSmith
WSmith
WMSmith
AJSnell
WJSouch
ASpooner
WAStallwood
LCStandring
CESteel
EStevens
Herbert LeslieStevens
CAStill
PEStone
GStoneman
EStreeter
HStreeter
JStreeter
EStrudwick
GStrudwick
GStunnell [Stunell]
ASullivan
PSullivan
CSummerscales
ROSuter
FSwain
CSwannell
JSwanton
RWSydenham
Thomas JSymes [Synes]
WJTaylor
AGTee
JTee
CRTemple
AETerry
HGTerry
ThomasTester
ADTether
FThatcher
FThomas
WGThwaites
GHTichband
CTipping
CTitmus
AGTonge
ATriggs
JTucker
AETucknott
HTullett
WTupper
HRTurner
WTurner
HGVaughan
CVeck
TWVerrall
CVinall
EVince
FVoice
HEVoyce
JWager
JAWake
FJWallis
JKWWard
JRWard
ThomasWare
FFWarner
TWarner
AGWaters
HWatson
GEWatts
WJWebb
WWebster
JWellby
AAWeller
ACWenham
CWest
ADWhite
JJDWhite
TWhite
WGWhittington
PAWickens
CWilliams
GVWilliams
EGWise
GWood
WAWood
AWorsfold
AEWright
AWTWright
HWright
RSWright
FGYeo
AYoung
WilliamYoung
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Corporal
Sec. Lt.
Private
No info
Tpr.
Driver
Rifleman
Sergeant
Private
Private
Private
Rifleman
Rifleman
Private
Sec. Lt.
Private
Sergeant
Private
Sapper
Private
Lance Corporal
Sec. Lt.
Private
Private
Private
Rifleman
Private
Sec. Lt.
Private
Private
Tpr.
Private
Gunner
Private
Private
Corporal
Private
Rifleman
Private
Rifleman
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Sapper
Cadet
Private
Rifleman
Wireop.
Private
Stoker
Private
Private
Sergeant
Private
Lance Corporal
Private
Sergeant
Lance Corporal
Sergeant
Private
Signal'r.
A.B.
Private
Rifleman
Private
Sergeant
Private
Driver
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
A.B.
Private
Private
Lance Corporal
Rifleman
Gunner
Private
Gunner
Private
Sapper
Tpr.
Private
Private
Seaman
Sergeant
Sapper
Gunner
Sapper
Private
Private
Private
Private
Lance Corporal
Private
Private
Signal'r.
Private
Rifleman
Private
Private
Sapper
Private
Private
Rifleman
Private
Sapper
Rifleman
C.S.M
Seaman
Sergeant
Sapper
Seaman
Private
Private
Private
Gunner
Private
Private
Gunner
Private
Sergeant
Private
Private
Private
Corporal
Private
Rifleman
L'gStkr.
Gunner
Private
Sergeant
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Gunner
Private
Private
Private
Sergeant
P.O.
Private
Private
Private
Sec. Lt.
Private
Private
Gunner
Private
Sergeant
Second Lieutenant
Private
Private
Corporal
Private
Tpr.
Driver
Private
Rifleman
Private
Private
A.B.
Private
Bomber
Corporal
Act. Sgt.
Private
Sapper
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Lieutenant
Private
Private
Private
Private
Lieutenant
Gunner
Private
Sec. Cpl.
Gunner
Private
Private
Sapper
Private
Private
Sapper
Private
Rifleman
Private
Sergeant
Gunner
Gunner
Sergeant
Sapper
Private
Bdsman.
Sergeant
Corporal
1st A.M.
Private
Private
Sergeant
Driver
Rifleman
Private
Lance Corporal
Private
Private
1st Class Stoker
Private
Tpr.
Private
P.O.
Gunner
Private
Sergeant
L/Sergt.
P.O.
Gunner
Sapper
A.B.
Sapper
Corporal
Rifleman
Private
Sapper
Corporal
Private
Private
Sergeant
Bomber
Sergeant
Corporal
Private
Private
Private
Rifleman
Driver
Private
A.B.
A.B.
Lance Corporal
O.S.
1st Class Stoker
Sec. Lt.
Private
A.B.
Sapper
Corporal
Bdsman.
Lance Corporal
Private
Private
Rifleman
Private
Sapper
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Gunner
Sec. Lt.
Private
Sergeant
Able Seaman
Driver
Private
Lance Corporal
Seaman
Sec. Lt.
Private
Bomber
Private
Rifleman
A.B.
Private
Lieutenant
Private
Tpr.
Rifleman
Private
Private
Private
Sergeant
Gunner
Gunner
Bomber
1st Class Stoker
Tpr.
Corporal
Private
Sapper
Private
Rifleman
Private
Private
Corporal
Pioneer
Bomber
Private
Private
Sergeant
Lance Corporal
Corporal
Private
Private
O.S.
Sergeant
Rifleman
A.B.
Private
Private
2 A.M.
Lance Corporal
Private
Private
Rifleman
Rifleman
Private
Private
Private
Rifleman
Private
Stoker
Private
Private
C'rpentr.
Private
Sec. Lt.
Corporal
Private
Private
Private
Rifleman
Corporal
Corporal
Lance Corporal
Private
Sergeant
Sapper
Seaman
Sergeant
Captain
Private
Private
Rifleman
Rifleman
Lance Corporal
Private
Driver
Rifleman
Gunner
Signall'r
Lance Corporal
Private
Private
Gunner
Private
Stoker
Gunner
Private
Private
2 c Stkr.
Lance Corporal
Private
S'ff-Cpt.
Trmptr.
Private
Private
Private
Sergeant
Lance Corporal
Private
Private
Lance Corporal
Private
Gunner
Private
Lance Corporal
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Able Seaman
Bomber
Private
Gunner
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Tpr.
Private
Act. Cpl.
Private
Private
Private
Private
Sapper
Private
Corporal
Private
Private
Private
Ck's Mte.
A.B.
Private
Gunner
Driver
Private
Lance Corporal
Private
Lieutenant
Private
Rifleman
Private
Private
1st Class Stoker
Private
L/Sergt.
Lance Corporal
Private
Dck-hd
Private
Able Seaman
Private
Private
Acting Sdlr. Cpl.
Driver
Private
Rifleman
Private
Private
Rifleman
Private
Driver
Private
Private
Major
Private
Gunner
Sapper
Private
A.B.
Private
Private
Private
Private
Private
Driver
Gunner
Private
Rifleman
Private
Private
Private
Private
Sergeant
Private
Corporal
Private
Private
Private
Private
O.S.
A.B.
Private
Tpr.
Private
Lance Corporal
Corporal
Private
Sapper
Private
Driver
Corporal
Private
Driver
Private
Sec. Lt.
Sapper
2nd Class Petty Officer


RAILWAY POSITION

Casual Labourer
Clerk
Casual Labourer
No Info
Labourer
Labourer
Carr. Cleaner
Platelayer
Labourer
Eng. Cleaner
Clerk
Clerk
Casual Labourer
Ticket Collector
Platelayer
Clerk
Labourer
Clerk
Clerk
Machinist
Clerk
Elec. Com. Fitter
Switch Cabin Att.
Elect. Lad
Labourer
Labourer
Clerk
Gas Fitter's Asst.
Clerk
Porter
Porter
Porter
Lamp Lad
Gas Filler
Outside Porter
Clerk
Labourer
Shunter
Clerk
Coachmaker's App.
Sheeter
Greaser
Clerk
Fitter's Mate
Labourer
Warehouse Lad
Guard
Clerk
Carr. Cleaner
Wagonmaker
Booking Clerk
Porter
Labourer
Wagon Painter
Signalman
Labourer
Clerk
Collector
Seaman
Porter
Shunter
Painter
Casual Labourer
Porter
Fireman
Porter
Clerk
Carr. Cleaner
Platelayer
Temp. Bricklayer
Casual Labourer
Labourer
Labourer
Painter's Labr.
Platelayer
Porter
Eng. Cleaner
F'ch Polishr's App.
Goods Shunter
Labourer
Messenger
Temp. Labourer
Loader
Clerk
Casual Striker
Temp. Platelayer
Lifter's Lad
Clerk
Porter
Tracer
Labourer
Clerk
Signal Porter
Eng. Cleaner
Casual Labourer
Carriage Cleaner
Clerk
Tele. Clerk
Examiner
Labourer
Goods Guard
Lad Porter
Clerk
Engine Cleaner (App. Fireman)
Porter
Carr. Cleaner
Platelayer
Outside Porter
Painter
Clerk
Clerk
Clerk
Labourer
Water Tower Att.
Porter
Labourer
Machine Lad
Clerk
Bricklayer
Greaser
Temp. Painter
Striker
Porter
Eng. Cleaner
Clerk
Ldg. Carr. Cleaner
Labourer
Messenger
Casual Labourer
Porter
Sheeter
Clerk
Brakesman
Bricklayer
Porter
Driller
Switch Cabin Att.
Labourer
Labourer
Platelayer
Clerk
Porter
Carr. Cleaner
Porter
Temp. Porter
Porter
Leading Hand
Platelayer
Platelayer
Carman
Lifter
Porter
Engine Cleaner
Engine Cleaner
Scales Attendant
Craneman
Cleaner
Cleaner
Platelayer
Erector
Porter
Porter
Constable
Labourer
Cas. Carr. Cleaner
Clerk
Porter
Winchman
Shunter
Lifter's Lad
Clerk
Temp. Labourer
Fitter's Mate
Carman
Engine Cleaner
Parcels Vanguard
App. Fireman
Engine Cleaner
Signal Porter
Engine Cleaner
Carpenter
Porter
Fireman
Labourer
Engine Cleaner
Platelayer
Signal Porter
Platelayer
Ldg. Carr. Cleaner
Washer Out
Engr's Asst.
Casual Labourer
Porter
Machinist's Lad
Porter
Fitter's App.
Porter
Temp. Carman
Asst. Foreman
Carriage Cleaner
Engine Cleaner
Labourer
Clerk
Booking Clerk
Lad Porter
Engine Cleaner
Labourer
Clerk
Casual Labourer
Parcels Porter
Signals Porter
Constable
Engine Cleaner
Bill Checker
Casual Labourer
Clerk
Clerk
Fitter's App.
Carriage Cleaner
Porter
Temp. Fittr's Mate
Porter
Carman
Painter
Guard
Watchman
Carriage Cleaner
Lifter
Labourer
Porter
Lad Porter
Porter
Labourer
Carriage Cleaner
Motorman
Constable
Jt. Boats Stev.
Carriage Cleaner
Tele. Clerk
Messenger
Pass. Guard
Parcels Porter
Clerk
Greaser (Gas Filler)
Engine Cleaner (App. Fireman)
Asst. Fitter
Shunter
Labourer
Asst. Guard
Asst. Ganger
Labourer
Porter
Casual Labourer
Fitter's Mate
Labourer
Scotcher
Scotcher
Porter
Porter
Labourer
Wireman
Seaman
Machinist
Fitter's App.
Coalman
Carriage Cleaner
Engine Cleaner
Rivet Lad
Casual Labourer
Clerk
Clerk
Labourer
Cas. Firelighter
Porter
Platelayer
Temp. Porter
Temporary Carman
Temp. Labourer
Gas Filler
Shunter
Engine Cleaner
Carriage Cleaner
Clerk
Porter
Labourer
Porter
Casual Labourer
Turner
Clerk
Parcels Porter
Clerk
Porter
Casual Labourer
Labourer's Lad
Ldg. Carr. Cleaner
Boatman
Porter
Draughtsman
Platelayer
Porter
Labourer
Labourer
Porter
Porter
Casual Labourer
Casual Labourer
Guard
Craneman
Labourer
Temp. Labourer
Mechanic
Coachmaker
Striker
Clerk
App'd Fireman
Engine Cleaner
Signal Porter
Collector
Asst. Winder
Carman
Fitter's Mate
Motorman
Platelayer
Clerk
Labourer
Platelayer
Porter
Clerk
Porter
Porter
Labourer
Porter
Labourer
Clerk
Carpenter
Labourer
Porter
Clerk
Clerk
Porter
Platelayer
Porter
Porter
Cleaner
Porter
Clerk
Labourer
Wagon Maker
Signalman
Asst. Surveyor
Casual Labourer
Casual Labourer
Clerk
Guard
Loader
Porter
Signal Porter
Clerk
Coalman
Gas Fitter
Messenger
Lad Pcls. Porter
Labourer
Striker
Clerk
Fitter's Mate
Casual Labourer
Yardman
Carman
Labourer
Labourer
Carriage Cleaner
Clerk
Casual Labourer
Trimmer
Labourer
Wagon Painter
Porter
Clerk
Labourer
Cas. Wheel Turner
Labourer
Helper
Labourer
Gas Filler
Platelayer
Carpenter
Solicitor
Cas. Machine Lad
Carriage Cleaner
Carman
Carman
Signalman
Clerk
Labourer
Temp. Labourer
Lad Porter
Temp. Painter
Parcels Porter
Labourer
Engine Cleaner
Storesman
Porter
Labourer
Coupling Cleaner
Seaman
Engine Cleaner
Labourer
Fitter's Mate
Porter
Parcels Clerk
Casual Labourer
Clerk
Storesman
Porter
Carriage Cleaner
Porter
Fore. Carr. Cleaner
Carriage Cleaner
Labourer
Labourer
Fitter's Mate
Driller
Platelayer
Carriage Cleaner
Checker
Carriage Cleaner
Goods Porter
Trn. Com. Attend.
Telegraph Clerk
Carriage Cleaner
Temporary Carman
Porter
Pit Cleaner
Porter
Painter's App.
Fitter's App.
Platelayer
Lifter
Labourer
Casual Labourer
Guard
Constable
Apprentice
Cleaner
Porter
Labourer
Seaman
Clerk
Holder-up
Labourer
Clerk
Carman
Porter
Seaman
Casual Labourer
Head Goods Shunter
Labourer
Rivet Lad
Porter
Fitter's App.
Engine Cleaner
Lifter Lad
Ticket Collector
Clerk
Porter
Yardman
Porter
Striker
Checker
Clerk
Porter
Labourer
Conductor
Carman
Labourer
Labourer
Labourer
Detective
Stableman
Treadleman
Fitter's App.
Labourer
Porter
Overhead Labourer
Clerk
Clerk
Porter
Coach Painter
Guard
Telegraph Clerk
Engine Painter
Shunter
Cas'l Wire. Asst.
Fitter's Mate
Driller
Apprentice
Engine Cleaner
Labourer
Porter
Clerk
Carman
Temp. Porter
Constable
Rivet Lad
Carriage Cleaner
Platelayer
Holder-up
Clerk
Carman
Coalman
Clerk
Labourer
Labourer

PHOTOGRAPHER UNKNOWN


A scene at Brighton railway station

 

 STORIES FROM THE SHOVEL


WE WON THE WAR..............................



..................BUT WE LOST OUR ENGINE


extracted from RTCS book on locomotives of the LBSCR


An humours incident happened on the evening of 11th November, 1918, Armistice Night, which involve the crew of an Class 

E4 No. 500. The crew had just worked a van special down from London Bridge to Redhill and was standing in the down bay 

awaiting instructions as its return to New Cross, when the Station Master asked the driver into his office for a glass of beer to 

celebrate the ending of hostilities. The Fireman, a young  lad of 17, was left in charge and after attending the fire and boiler 

he sat down on a luggage truck, ate his supper and fell asleep. In due course, the driver returned to find his his engine gone 

and his mate snoring gently away without a care in the world until roughly brought back to reality and 11.45 p.m. on the 

draughty Redhill platform. A hurried search failed to bring the engine to light and at first it was thought that there was a  

runaway on the main line, but after the Signalman on duty had proved this impossible, the search was broadened to include 

the S.E.& C.R.'s running shed. There the they found the engine simmering along side the Foreman's office, where it apparently 

been taken by a crew going of duty, although no evidence of this was ever found despite a lengthy inquiry by the officials of the 

two companies concerned. In the wrath of officialdom fell on the helpless Fireman, who was fined £3 for sleeping on duty, no 

special circumstances being found in his tender years, or in the 12 1/4 hours spent on duty prior to the incident.

 

 

         Brighton driver Jack "Mucking" Billett finally receives recognition for serving in the First World War 

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