IGNITING THE FLAME OF UNITY

THE HISTORY OF THE

BRIGHTON BRANCH OF A.S.L.E.F.

 

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THIS PAGE COVERS THE EVENTS LEADING UP TO THE AMALGAMTION OF THE BRIGHTON 

Nos. 1 & 2 BRANCHES AND THE RATIONALISATION OF BOTH THE MIXED TRACTION AND E.M.U.T. DEPOTS. 

 

 

Freddie Locke

Brighton L.D.C. rep

 

 BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of January 9th 1986 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs.

Members present: D. Knight, I. Munro, P. Plaine, F. Flocke, B.Pegg, S. Fortune, R. Lawrence, B. Hall & D. Hill. (9).

Correspondence

Re Reversible Line P. Pk – Balc Jct (from Bognor & Littlehampton).

New members S.R. Hobbs & B. Howcutt.

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of March 6th 1986 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs.

Members present: D. Knight, M. Organ, R. Matthews, I. Munro, R. Thomas, B. Pegg, F. Locke, J. Parks,

B. Hall, E. Janes & P. Plaine. (11).

Correspondence

Pro. J. Parks & Sec M. Organ. “That ban on Reversible Line (P. Pk – H. Heath – Bal. T. Jcn) be lifted, therefore recinding Res.30/85”. Voting For 8, against 2 Abstain 1.

The Assistant Branch Secretary stated the Branch Secretary was unhappy that had not been informed that the LDC had lifted the ban on Reversible Line Working (P.Pk – H. Heath – Bal. Jct), after joint LDC meeting at Portsmouth. He was in the position that other Branches were ringing up asking for information and he was unable to give it.

In reply, the LDC secretary said he was sorry he had not informed the Branch Secretary, and wished to apologise to the branch and Branch Secretary for the omission.

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of April 3rd 1986 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs.

Members present: P. Plaine, A. Flowers, B. Noakes, E. Janes, I. Munro, B. Hall, R. Lawrence, F. Locke,

D. Knight, J. Cameron & J. Parks (11).

Correspondence

Accident A.J. Edwards, S. Hobbs now S. Huckle, and M. Giles retired.

Pro. B. Noakes & Sec A. Flowers. “That £25.00 be donated from branch funds to Silent Night Fund”. All in favour (11), “and that list be posted for further donations”.

Bro. A. Flowers gave Brighton & Hove District Trades Council Report.

Proposed A. Flowers & Sec. P. Plaine. “That Branch Secretary contact locasl N.U.R. & A.S.L.E.F. Federation for meeting for speaker on anti-aparthied movement”. All in favour (11).

Assistant Branch Secretary, said there might be a need for additional fianace from Branch funds for 50 year badge. Meeting said this would be forthcoming if required.

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of May 1st 1986 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs.

Members present: P. Plaine, D. Knight, I. Munro, F. Locke, R. Lawrence, R. Thomas, B. Hall, M. Organ,

B. Pegg, B. Noakes, J. Parks & J. Cameron (12).

Correspondence

Re K. Walls dismissal, paybill, E. Watson retired, K. Walls resume, Letter from Branch Secretary Selhurst re 50 year badge (25 ordered), advice rule 37 branch/political fund.

Pro. I. Munro & B. Hall. “That M. Organ be nominated for exchange visit U.K/G.D.R.”. All in favour (12).

Pro. B. Hall & Sec M. Organ. “That in the event of there being an industrial dispute between West Worthing and management on the introduction of the Summer diagrams in May, this branch instruct our members not to come involve under any circumstances in the West Worthing work”. All in favour (12).

 BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of June 12th 1986 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs.

Members present: M. Organ, E. Janes, F. Locke, D. Knight, P. Plaine, B. Pegg, A. Ricketts & J. Parks (8).

Pro. E. Janes & Sec. A. Ricketts. “That standing order No. 1 be recinded and a new time and date for holding branch meetings be put forward, i.e. alternate Sundays at 10 a.m. monthly”.

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of July 3rd 1986 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: A. Light, W. Kenchington, P. Plaine, A. Ricketts, L. Osman & M. Organ. (6)

Pro. L. Osman & Sec W. Kenchington “Bro. M. Organ second delegate Trades Council”. All in favour (6).

Pro. M. Organ & Sec. L. Osman “£25 be donate to Justice for Mineworkers Campaign”. All in favour (6).

Sunday Branch Meetings

A debate followed on the proposal of Bro. Janes, in which the meeting felt the new arrangements would not work and said that existing members would drop off if meeting were away from Thursday.

Voting for Proposal 1, Against 4, Bro. P. Plaine said he would vote at the 10.7.86.

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of August 14th 1986 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: L. Osman, B. Noakes, F. Locke, A. Light, P. Plaine & A. Ricketts (6).

Chairman presented Bro. Noakes with his 45 years badge.

JIM ROWE COLLECTION

Bernie Noakes (riight) with fellow Sectional Council Representative Arthur Brockman (Guildford Branch)

 

 

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of October 2nd 1986 Branch Meeting.

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: P. Plaine,D. Knight, E. Janes, I. Munro, J. Parks & R. Thomas (6).

Members Cox J.R. transfer to Redhill, Hunter M.R. transfer to Brighton No.1.

Pro. R. Thomas & Sec I. Munro. “That the following members be nominated for branch office.

Secretary A. Ricketts,

Ast/Secretary D. Knight,

Chairman P. Plaine,

Vice/Chairman N. Light,

Committee D. Hill, B. Pegg, R. Matthews, J. Parks & A. Edwards,

Auditors R. Thomas & L. Osman,

Trustees F. Locke & E. Janes.

District Council P. Plaine

Trades Council A. Flowers & M. Organ

All in favour (6)

Pro. D. Knight & Sec E. Janes. “that branch nominate for Brighton LDC Bros. L. Osman & N. Light”. All in favour.

Pro. I Munro & Sec R. Thomas. “That Branch nominations for West Worthing LDC be J. Parks”. All in favour (6).

Pro P. Plaine & Sec I. Munro. “That Secretary send a get well card to General Secretary Ray Buckton from Brighton No.2 branch”. All in favour (6).

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of November 6th 1986 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: A. Light, W. Kenchington, G. Hatcher, A. Ricketts, C. Newton, L. Osman & M. Organ (7)

Correspondence

Accident letters re R. Abell, G. Hatcher, M. Organ & B. Hutchings.

Four new members, E. Ailes, R. Kenyon, S. French & M. Yorke-Williams, S. Treliving

T.U.C. Youth Conference,

Pro L. Osman & Sec C. Newton. “Bro. M. Organ be nominated”. All in favour (7).

Norman Light

Brighton No.2 Branch Vice Branch Chairman, & L.D.C. Chairman

 

 

The Easement of Manning of 1986

The beginning of the end of the Secondman's grade

MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING

HELD AT B.R.S.A. BRIGHTON ON 16.11.86.

AGENDA :- DECISION 92 “EASEMENT OF MANNING”

Presnent: J. Norris, E. Gates, K. Auger (St. Leonards), R. Dorkings, R. White, J. Sanders (Littlehampton),

R. Thomas (West Worthing), P. Plaine, D. Knight, L. Osman, F. Locke, A. Ricketts, P. Osborne, J. Osborne, W. MacKenzie, S. Huckle, B. Noakes, A. Light, M. Organ, W. Kenchington, P. Edwards, A. Edwards,

T. Fielding, R. Swetman, V. Clarke, M. Hunter, B. Brown, G. Hussey, M. Hawkins, R. Jarrett, F. Maskell,

M. Thompson, S.Fortune, W. Jones, C. Horlock (Brighton Nos. 1&2), L. Warboys (Fratton), E. o’Keefe,

R. Black & K. Serle (Selhust). (39)

District Secretary D. Fullick took floor the chair for the first part of the meeting, he explained the reason for calling same, then handed over the floor to E.C. member J. Davies.

Bro. Davies explained the background to the productivity talk which started in 1979, and brought us up to date. He said that B. R. where looking to 1986 to push in all the so called “shopping list” back in 1982 just after our flexi rostering strike, also the monopolies commission report of 1980 looked to the possible privatisation of L. &S.E. sector of the B.R. hence B.R.’s interest in getting as much of the shopping list in as possible. He said A.S.L.E.F had argued at R.S.N.T. the safety angle against imposing Decision 92, B.R. didn’t want to know, neither did the Railway Inspectorate.

Bro. D. Fullick then opened to questions from the floor, several points were put to Bro. Davies to which he answered (some not to everybody’s liking). Bro. Davies ended by saying any dispute over interpretation should be forwarded to the E.C., and that he was the only E.C. member who had voted against the proposals. Here the Chairman wound up the first stage of the meeting. He and Bro. Davies left.

The meeting then elected Bro. Plaine to Chairman. He read a resolution sent by Waterloo Branch to the meeting and opened the floor for questions. A lengthy debate took place on Decision 92 & the Waterloo resolution. After questions the following resolution was proposed by Bro. E. o’Keefe (Selhurst) & seconded by Bro. B. Noakes.

1 Driver’s Assistant or footplate staff to be diagrammed on ballast trainsfrom commencement of diagrams both in relation to the lack of P.N. Break and for safety reasons.

2 No driver to be called upon to couple or uncouple locos or trains under any circumstances.

3 Insist on drivers over 55 years be given the opportunity of early retirement in relation to the number of displaced drivers.

4 Insist on all intensive suburban duties to be limited to 7 hours actual time spent at the front.

5 Insist on all P.N. Breaks to be completed by the termination of the fifth hour of duty.

6 Staff Side L.D.C.’s to be given the time to examine all diagrams prior to their operation in order to ensure that all relevant agreements are adhered to by the management.

7 To give back backing to this resolution a co-ordinating committee be formed consisting of L.D.C. members.

8 Further we inform the E.C. of A.S.L.E.F. that we view with utter disgust their actions in agreeing to the implementation of Dec 92, and further the Southern Region expects full E.C. support in any action it may take to salvage the best it can from a retrograde agreement.

Voting all in favour.

Pro W. Mackenzie & Sec M. Hawkins, 4 L.D.C. members from each division. All in favour.

Pro. E. o’Keefe & Sec B. Noakes for Bros. P. Plaine, R. Black, W. Mackenzie & B. Reed for Central Committee members. Voting all in favour.

 BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of January 8th 1987 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: P. Plaine, D. Knight, I. Munro, R. Knight, L. Smith, D. Hill, B. Pegg, J. Parks, F. Locke,

R. Thomas, L. Osman, N. Light, M. Gray, R. Hammond, M. Organ, A. Flowers & P. Edwards (17)

Correspondence

New member M. Doyle, S. Huckle transferred to Feltham.

Pro. R. Thomas & Sec. L. Osman. “That this branch instruct the L.D.C. (Brighton & West Worthing) to inform management that we will withdraw from minute item 28 (the Rest Day Agreement) as from 19th January 1987”. Voting 16 for, 1 against.

Pro R. Hammond & Sec R. Thomas.”That should the L.D.C.s consider it expedient to resume the working of Rest Days they have the branch mandate to act accordingly” Voting 10 for 3 against.

Pro I. Munro & Sec. L. Osman “That £25 be donated from branch funds to S.O.G.A.T (News International Dispute) appeal. All in favour (17).

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of March 5th 1987 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: B. Noakes, P. Plaine, D. Knight, R. Lawrence, J. Parks, B. Pegg & I. Munro (7)

Correspondence

Letter from D. Fullick re meeting/Train Crew Agreement

Pro. A. Ricketts & Sec D. Knight. “That this Brighton No.2 Branch instructs the Brighton L.D.C. to seek agreement with management to alter the way rest days are booked to men. i.e. a similar way to the way daily alterations are issued to Brighton M.T., rest day men all booked down one side of the sheet with their R.D. number to their name”. All Brighton men in favour (3).

 

 

1987 A.A.D.

This was Ray Buckton's last A.A.D. before retiring.

This photo features four future General Secretaries of A.S.L.E.F. Derrick Fullick, Lew Adams, Mick Rix

& Keith Norman.

The picture also features delegates from the District No. 1 area: Back row centre Bill MacKenzie (Brighton), far left Tony Allen (T.W.W.), right Graham Morris (London Bridge) right Jim Rowe (Basingstoke), Ray Cooper, (Orpington (fifth along from Tony Allen), Cliff Asserman, (Ramsgate (3 more along), Paul Wightman, (Fratton (third left of Bill Mackenzie) & Melvin Cox, (Waterloo/Nine Elms, (left of Graham Morris).

 

 BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of August 13th 1987 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: N. light, L. Osman, G. Hatcher, M. Organ, W. Kenchington & P. Plaine (act Secretary)

Correspondence

Letter re P.C. Edwards accident.

Bro Ted Rooke having passed away today, members present stood in silence for one minute.

Secretary to contact Bro. Rooke widow to express the branch condolences and offer any assistance re probate.

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of October 9th 1987 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: A. Ricketts, A. Light, L. Osman, M. Organ, W. Kenchington & B. Noakes (6).

Correspondence

Receipt for donation from Bro. P. Edwards to orphan fun. New member T. Bundy to West Worthing.

Pro. A. Ricketts & Sec. B. Noakes. “That should a member of this branch retire before normal retirement age. i.e. because of medical or early retirement, then this Brighton Branch pay the Honary Membership fee (1p per week) until normal retirement age is attained” Voting all in favour (6).

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of November 12th 1987 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: P. Plaine, D. Knight, I. Munro, B. Pegg, F. Locke, A. Flowers J. Parks & E. Janes (8)

Bro. J. Parks asked what would be position of West Worthing depot in the event of rationalisation at Brighton? Chairman outlined position i.e. stay with Brighton, join another branch (Littlehampton) or form own branch.

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of January 7th 1988 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: I. Munro, D. Knight, J. Parks, E. Janes, B. Pegg, P. Plaine, F. Locke & A. Flowers (8).

Ass/Branch Secrectary thanked chairman Bro. P. Plaine for 5 years as Chairman, and presented pen/pencil set on behalf of E.C. members. Presenalso expressed thanks to Bro. P. Plaine.

Branch Secretary, to find out from Organising Secretary Staton, exact procedure for closure of branch.

Bro. F. Locke & Sec E. Janes. “Bro. A. Ricketts be asked to be 4th co-opted L.D.C. member, and L.D.C. co-opted members be paired with full L.D.C. members” All in favour (8).

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of January 14th 1988 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present; A. Ricketts, B. Noakes, P. Edwards, A. Edwards, G. Hussey, G. Hatcher, A. light, C. Newton, M. Cole, L. Osman & R. Sheehan (11).

This meeting wished to express their thanks to Bro. P. Plaine for 5 years Branch Chairman.

Closure information in hands of E.C. Member, J. Davies & A. Staton, Organiser secretary. Waiting for them to send it to him.

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of February 4th 1988 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: A. Flowers, M. Styles, R. Thomas, B. Noakes, E. Janes, F. Locke, G. Lawrence, 

C. Newton, I. Munro, P. Plaine & J. Parks (11).

Chairman P. Plaine opened the meeting and called on Bro. C. Newton to act as Ass Secretary in the absence of Bro. D. Knight, who is sick, and at the same time expressed the hope that Dave would soon be well.

Proposal of Bro. F. Maskell, re Fallen Trees, & Walk ways. This proposal was debated to some length, it was then proposed M. Styles & seconded by G. Lawrence. “That this branch instruct the L.D.C. to inform management that we are no longer prepared to work trains over reversible lines Preston Park – Balcombe Tunnel Junction until the walk ways are cleared”. Voting all in favouor (11).

Further proposal, pro E. Janes & sec G. Lawrence. “That this branch instructs the L.D.C. to seek early meeting with A. M. Brown over the condition of line side dangerous and fallen trees, and express our grave concerns regarding the safety of our staff and public. It also instructs it constituents to run at reduced speed in areas that they consider unsafe. Should the effort to rectify the situation by management be un-positive towards these hazards in the near future, then the L.D.C. further instruct it constituents to ban all movements of trains during the hours of darkness” . Voting all in favour.

Pro F. Locke & sec E. Janes. “That the March meeting of this branch be held on Wednesday 16th March at 6.45 p.m., together with the Brighton No.1 branch to finalise arrangements to close both branches and form one branch”. All in favour (11).

BRIGHTON No. 2 BRANCH

Minutes of February 11th 1988 Branch Meeting

Held at Staff Club Belmont, meeting opened at 19:00 Hrs

Members present: L. Osman, C. Newton, F, Maskell, R. Vickery, G. Hussey, A. Ricketts & W. Jones (7).

Correspondence

This meeting felt that L.P. & T.U.C. fees be withheld until merger. Pro F. Maskell & Sec G. Hussey. “That this branch meeting instruct the secretary to with hold payment of the above fee’s until amalgamation with Brighton No.1”. Voting 6 for.

Debate took place on this resolution (8/88). Bro. Maskell wished to make it known that his orginal resolution was completely ignored and wished his name struck from the top of Res. No. 8. Voting for Res No. 8 6, for

A rider was added to the resolution of E. Janes & G. Lawrence. “This meeting agrees in principle to Res. 9, with reservations i.e. no trains after dark. Further another meeting be called before any action is taken”. All in favour 6.

Events have overtaken this resolution, the committees of both branches recommending a joint meeting on 9.3.88.

 

 

Ted Janes

 

 

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